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"delboy":32nz1qvd wrote: in my experinece some of the worst beer i've had have been local and micro[/quote:32nz1qvd]Likewise.

Good luck with the job applications.

"delboy":1i00i2r5 wrote:
Right i really shouldnt be on here, i really do have job applications to fill in, quite pressing as im getting the chop at the end of the month unfortunately <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt="" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: -->[/quote:1i00i2r5]


Best of luck with the application, are you jumping from academia?

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:1vksfrue wrote: For what its worth im not suggesting everyone on here is a macro heating beer snob (far from it)[/quote:1vksfrue]I heat macros so much they boil <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> (sorry, I know thats terrible; couldn't resist)

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:1vksfrue wrote: but i am saying there is a bias towards micro, [/quote:1vksfrue]Isn't that like saying a website supporting, say, a soccer or rugby team had a bias towards their team? I know what you mean tho; just cos you support one team, doesnt mean you have to trash-talk all the others.

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:1vksfrue wrote: and that in my experinece some of the worst beer i've had have been local and micro hardly that contraversial. [/quote:1vksfrue] Ive been blessed with mostly positive results from micros, and only one beer that I would say 'never again' to. Mind you, yourself and the beer nut have doubtless sampled more than I have!

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:1vksfrue wrote: Right i really shouldnt be on here, i really do have job applications to fill in, quite pressing as im getting the chop at the end of the month unfortunately <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt="" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: -->[/quote:1vksfrue]Sorry to hear that and best of luck

&amp;quot;oblivious&amp;quot;:2yfpgsq6 wrote:

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:2yfpgsq6 wrote:
Right i really shouldnt be on here, i really do have job applications to fill in, quite pressing as im getting the chop at the end of the month unfortunately <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt="" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: -->[/quote:2yfpgsq6]


Best of luck with the application, are you jumping from academia?[/quote:2yfpgsq6]

Thanks for the good luck wishes from yourself and others, contract is coming to an end, im still writing grant proposals but to be honest i've been there done that for the last 10 years (been on about 8 different funding sources). Sick of having the second worst job security of any sector (only tourism and catering is worse and thats because it seasonal <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> ). If i get a permenant job I care not a jot about whether the grants get funded or not.

Hoping to use my experience if i can, even if its just lab teching on much reduced cash but if i can't even get one of those then anything to pay the mortgage basically.

&amp;quot;Irish Party Ale&amp;quot;:2hau5m1q wrote:

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:2hau5m1q wrote: and that in my experinece some of the worst beer i've had have been local and micro hardly that contraversial. [/quote:2hau5m1q] Ive been blessed with mostly positive results from micros, and only one beer that I would say 'never again' to. Mind you, yourself and the beer nut have doubtless sampled more than I have!
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I think the main problem i have with a number of the micros is their insistence on using rather bland dried yeasts simply for convience sake, a lot of micro beer tastes the same because they use the same yeast (you all now which yeast). Of course not everbody takes the easy way out some do actually go to the trouble of using a more characterful strain (and almost invariably they make superior beer IMO).

Im all about local beer, so local thats its brewed in my shed <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> and i suppose that affects my opinion somewhat, I see myself as a brewer first and a beer appreciator second. The usual commercial slabs of beer might be lacking in character but you really have to try and brew one to understand just how difficult it is to brew something similar. Its not easy, i certainly haven't managed to brew anything as clean and flaw free despite a number of attempts.

For instance any banana head can knock out a decent stout, there is so many flavours to hide the imperfections behind but it take a level of techncial excellence to make the stuff the big commercials make and i kind of have a grudging respect for that.