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"delboy":2gipd4lt wrote: The site is awash with generalisations, microbrewed/local/esoteric [b:2gipd4lt]good[/b:2gipd4lt] anything mass produced/familar [b:2gipd4lt]pants[/b:2gipd4lt].[/quote:2gipd4lt]Quote me an example.

We certainly decided here[/url:2gipd4lt] that the specific microbrews in question were better, and we did it again here[/url:2gipd4lt], but it was based on blind tasting. No generalising involved.

A glance at the Brew Days[/url:2gipd4lt] board shows me the most recently updated clone recipe threads are for Samuel Adams Boston Lager, London Pride, Rochfort 8 and Hobgoblin. All masochists trying to brew deliberately pants beer, you reckon?

in the title I excluded homebrew from the possabilitys as results vary greatly and not everyone makes it to tastings.

i also excluded heino bud carlsberg ect as a discussion as to whitch is better prob would have been less intresting

i was looking for a intresting debate as to what beer you have spent money on but didnt like as a personal thing.
everyone has diffrent tastes and i was courious what people taught was bad/very bad.

for instance i LOVE chimey blue so much so i went to belgim to try others (twice actully <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt="" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: --> ) but few people i know like it. its just personal preference and a bit of fun.

&amp;quot;emmetg&amp;quot;:3fmt7rep wrote: its just personal preference and a bit of fun.[/quote:3fmt7rep]
Amen to that...

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:uemg5wwv wrote: The site is awash with generalisations, microbrewed/local/esoteric [b:uemg5wwv]good[/b:uemg5wwv] anything mass produced/familar [b:uemg5wwv]pants[/b:uemg5wwv].[/quote:uemg5wwv]

I think the site is awash with [b:uemg5wwv]opinions[/b:uemg5wwv] and that is what I find refreshing about it. I haven't seen that much evidence of beer snobbery here as opposed to some other sites.

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:zsoy66ip wrote:

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:zsoy66ip wrote: The site is awash with generalisations, microbrewed/local/esoteric [b:zsoy66ip]good[/b:zsoy66ip] anything mass produced/familar [b:zsoy66ip]pants[/b:zsoy66ip].[/quote:zsoy66ip]Quote me an example.

We certainly decided here[/url:zsoy66ip] that the specific microbrews in question were better, and we did it again here[/url:zsoy66ip], but it was based on blind tasting. No generalising involved.

A glance at the Brew Days[/url:zsoy66ip] board shows me the most recently updated clone recipe threads are for Samuel Adams Boston Lager, London Pride, Rochfort 8 and Hobgoblin. All masochists trying to brew deliberately pants beer, you reckon?[/quote:zsoy66ip]

Those are interesting little write ups but your not seriously suggesting they represent any sort of evidence that microbrewed is better, 9 microbrew fanboys in one case and five in another prefer microbrewed over commercial headline shocker <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->
In research we have a saying 'you get what you look for' the above tells you nothing more than people who have a bias for microbrewed beers can pick them out from commercial counterparts beers (which wouldnt be hard).
Im pretty confident (i'd bet my house on it) that i could replicate that same 'experiment' with a more representative and much larger sample size and stand those results on their head.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to go back through the numerous threads that take a pop at commercial. But i will mention the 'guilty pleasure' thread which was basically people admitting to drinking commercial beers as shame facedly if they were talking about their grumble mag collection <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

You've may have lost me with the brewing bit im afraid, im guessing you are using the same arguement from above that people who are big into microbrews will brew beers that emulate them, hardly a shocker.

I think its worth putting the raison detre of this site on here in relation to this to give us an idea of the congregation so to speak.
"Beoir is an independent group of consumers with a primary goal of supporting and raising awareness of Ireland's native independent microbreweries".

Nothing wrong with being a fanboy for microbrews but to then suggest you have no bias and that microbrews are better on the basis of a few mates down the pub is a bit out of whack though.

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:2snriamj wrote: which was basically people admitting to drinking commercial beers[/quote:2snriamj]It has people naming the macrobrewed beers they enjoy. It's a direct contradiction to your thesis that this site is full of snobs who think it's all bad beer.

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:2snriamj wrote: im guessing you are using the same arguement from above that people who are big into microbrews will brew beers that emulate them, hardly a shocker.[/quote:2snriamj]I named four beers. I wouldn't consider any of them to be a microbrew. That supposed snobs want to brew mainstream beers like Pride and Boston Lager again gives the lie that we're all about obscure beers.

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:2snriamj wrote: to then suggest you have no bias and that microbrews are better on the basis of a few mates down the pub is a bit out of whack though.[/quote:2snriamj]I didn't. I cited specific illustrative examples, and have also said that generalisations aren't helpful. Please don't accuse me of generalising when I'm not.