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"the beer revolution":ervw92xe wrote: Person drinks the beer and finds it rather uninspiring.
Comes on here to see what the beer folk think.
Finds a discussion where people voice their honest opinions.
Brewer reads, takes note and assures people that the first batch wasn't up to scratch and changes are afoot.
Beer improves.
Person tries it again, notes improvement and becomes a regular drinker of said beer.
Everyone wins.[/quote:ervw92xe]Yep. It never happens, though. You're far more likely to find someone starting a row because their favourite brewery has been maligned than find a brewer reading the thread and taking the comments on board. That's just a fact of the Internet.

"TheBeerNut":31f0qzxz wrote:

"the beer revolution":31f0qzxz wrote: Person drinks the beer and finds it rather uninspiring.
Comes on here to see what the beer folk think.
Finds a discussion where people voice their honest opinions.
Brewer reads, takes note and assures people that the first batch wasn't up to scratch and changes are afoot.
Beer improves.
Person tries it again, notes improvement and becomes a regular drinker of said beer.
Everyone wins.[/quote:31f0qzxz]Yep. It never happens, though. You're far more likely to find someone starting a row because their favourite brewery has been maligned than find a brewer reading the thread and taking the comments on board. That's just a fact of the Internet.[/quote:31f0qzxz]

Is Poc, who has already posted in this Thread not involved in Trouble?
I also got a response from Adnam's brewer on a boards.ie thread when I had a problem with Innovation. It does happen.
I'm also genuinely interested in people's opinions here. Sadly, it seems we're going to get few people's genuine opinions on Irish beers unless they love them!

"the beer revolution":2y2t93pd wrote: Is Poc, who has already posted in this Thread not involved in Trouble?[/quote:2y2t93pd]He is.

"the beer revolution":2y2t93pd wrote: I also got a response from Adnam's brewer on a boards.ie thread when I had a problem with Innovation. It does happen.[/quote:2y2t93pd]In that case, IIRC, it happened because I sent him a link to your post.

Do more of you ladies and gents on here not fancy creating yourselves a Ratebeer account?

I know that some people get royally turned off by the ultra-geeky "ticking" culture that some of the Ratebeerians go in for (I sure do), but I've found it a really useful way of accurately documenting my notes on beers in a public forum.

I'm pretty sure that many brewers in the UK and USA take a regular look at the scores and feedback about their beers on the site: after all, if 100 people in a week think your latest batch is absolute shite, then there's probably something wrong.

There aren't many of us Irish-based Ratebeer members, so many of the Irish beers only have a handful of reviews which aren't of much use to the brewers (or anyone, really). But if more regular Irish beer drinkers would document their thoughts, then perhaps that could function as an easy way for brewers to analyse consumer reactions to their brews without having to get into the nitty gritty of web-forums or random emails.

On a personal note, it would be great to get more Irish-based users on there to see what you folks are thinking of the most recent brews...it can get pretty lonely on there <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

My username on there is ACD by the way!

&amp;quot;duelly&amp;quot;:2oo7sg87 wrote: On a personal note, it would be great to get more Irish-based users on there to see what you folks are thinking of the most recent brews...it can get pretty lonely on there <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

My username on there is ACD by the way![/quote:2oo7sg87]

Okay- you've twisted my arm...

Good man Andrew!