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"TheBeerNut":2ou8g9l4 wrote:
"Irishman2":2ou8g9l4 wrote: Does it give the percentage? That matters as well. [/quote:2ou8g9l4]I can't think of any beer that gives percentages of ingredients. Are you saying that lobbying for ingredients listing is pointless unless percentages are given?[/quote:2ou8g9l4]
Ah i suppose, there is a big difference in 2% and 30%. I think if the drink is on a meri road to been Saki its worth knowing. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" " title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->. I wonder why beers don't have, or give very sparse information.
I like brewdog, they give you a list of ingredience, the IBU's the types of hops used, and the processes they use for each beer. i know completely impractical, but I think 30% rice is something that a beer consumer has the right to know. And why not.
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&quot;Irishman2&quot;:2ou8g9l4 wrote: I wonder if there is a way that our icb's could positively label it's beers with a stamp or something like that. To say that they are truely independent craft brewers. Kind of like guaranteed irish.[/quote:2ou8g9l4]That would be a superb idea. There's a move for them to organise into an umbrella group, and hopefully they'll look at that when they get moving.[/quote:2ou8g9l4]
I'm delighted you like that idea and I hope something like that gets setup. I think it would be hugely positive for consumers and for the our wonderful ICB's. Would it be worth a forum in the members area?
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&quot;Irishman2&quot;:2ou8g9l4 wrote: I would argue to protect consumer rights we should be looking at how level the playing field[/quote:2ou8g9l4]I totally agree. Our main driver is raising consumer awareness; telling drinkers they have a choice, what that choice is, and where it can be got. The biggest weapon the macros have is their saturation advertising. Our primary goal, I think, is to try and counteract that as much as possible. Something as simple as insisting your mates go to a pub with decent beer, and perhaps even try some, will help level the playing field better than trying to force through legislative or regulatory change.
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Maybe your right. I think for consumers though, some work in this area on their behalf could be a good thing. I am sceptical believe it or not, but just maybe it might be worth it. Your right about word of mouth though.
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&quot;Irishman2&quot;:2ou8g9l4 wrote: how some of these macrobreweries are selling and labelling faux craft beer. Its been a huge problem elsewhere, and i'm not just talking about millercoors.[/quote:2ou8g9l4]Well, elsewhere is elsewhere. We look after Ireland's drinkers only. We have our definition of Irish craft beer and it feeds through to our activities and Directory and app. We campaign positively for Irish craft beer but we don't campaign negatively against faux craft beer.
To see why you need only follow the massive blowback the Brewers Association in the US got recently from their "Craft vs. Crafty" statement, or the general grumbling you get about CAMRA supporting bad beer over good based solely on where the carbon dioxide comes from. Both organisations have lost a huge amount of credibility and good will through negative campaigning. We don't want that.[/quote:2ou8g9l4][/quote:2ou8g9l4]
If a beer has Craft Irish Beer on the label even though it does not tick any box for craft, should we not call them on that? I never really got CAMRA to be honest or agreed with them. Don't know much about the blowback with regards to the Brewers Association. I know tensions are huge over.
However I do completely agree though that its about a positive message. I do agree negative campaigning is not a great idea, but we should highlight these guys if there is foul play or unfair play against ICB's in Ireland.
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