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[quote:3g2a8bex]What are other peoples opinion on Arainn Mhor beer, people who haven't already made theirs clear?[/quote:3g2a8bex]
I think it isn't an Irish craft beer to be fair, or at least not yet. But I guess marketing it as such does no real harm, if it's successful it may help promote the cause.

I would like to welcome Árainn Mór brewery to the site. Many thanks for reading our posts and responding. We are (I mean I am!), delighted that you are engaging with us and wish you every success with your venture. Would you like to comment on my original question that started all this?
Regards,John.

[quote:1eycjdzb]We are (I mean I am!), delighted that you are engaging with us and wish you every success with your venture.[/quote:1eycjdzb]I think many of us feel this way, welcome and here's hoping you will continue to contribute.

Hi Gerry, welcome to the site.

I found your post interesting, but I have a few areas I am not clear on.

When you refer to “our brewery” is it the one in Belgium you are referring to, or the one you are planing to build?

When you mention that you: [quote:fz25jzsh] spent over 18 months establishing a product, recipes, marketing , design and branding for our pilot beers , Ban & Rua. All the elements in this process were Irish based except the brewing process, which is outsourced to one of the best microbreweries in Europe, based in Belgium.[/quote:fz25jzsh]
you seem to be implying that the beers were formulated in Ireland. Is this the case and if so, by who? As you seem to be saying that you do not have the expertise personally.

How is it that the Árainn Mór glasses ended up too small for an Árainn Mór beer? Did the glasses turn out to be smaller than you expected, or did the beer bottles turn out to be larger than you thought they would be?

Do you consider your beers to be Irish products?

Hi again all, great to see a healty debate raging. To clarify a couple of points;

1. I tried sourcing an Irish contract brewer but no one interested and when they were the costs were prohibitive.
2. Glass is deliveratley 400ml in size so the driner can add the final 100ml at leisure to maintain good foam head (a marketing choice I made, please comment)
3. Anyone we have supplied to has given fantastic feedback on thne beers themselves, both long established industry bods and consumers. I don't think there is a prob with the beer, do you ?
4. Prefer not to give the Belgian brewery contact at this stage.
5. We don't really sell ourselves as a craft brewery (yet) just an strong Irish beer brand. We're exporting to Japan already and have had other international interest so who knows.

Gerry

On glass size: When it comes to bottle conditioned beers, it is particularly important to have a glass that fits the entire volume of the beer. The reason for this is down to the sediment, at the bottom of the glass.

Some people want to keep the sediment out of the glass, while others prefer to get it all into the glass. In either case, a glass with room for the entire volume of the beer is necessary.

If you pour only part of the bottle into a glass and leave the bottle on the table, it is impossible the get all of the sediment evenly throughout the drink, if that is the way you like it.

If you prefer a clear beer, the first pour will be clear, but the sloshing action of putting the partly empty bottle back on the table and picking it up again to top up, will kick up some sediment, meaning that the top-up volume is now cloudy.

On the quality of the beer, I have no problem. They are solid, enjoyable beers.

However, I am trying to reconcile a couple of things from your previous posts.
On the one and you said:
[quote:1vgr2apl]feel I should say a few words on our brewery.[/quote:1vgr2apl]
While on the other you said:
[quote:1vgr2apl]We don't really sell ourselves as a craft brewery (yet) just an strong Irish beer brand.[/quote:1vgr2apl]

So are you saying that you don't consider the beer to be Irish?

I take it that the beers were formulated for you, by the Belgian contract brewers then. Am I right?