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"ronanf":3gw0n8f9 wrote: Sorry to go resurrecting an older thread[/quote:3gw0n8f9]No problem at all: that's what it's here for.

I think that the situation for a producer is quite different to that of an importer. Surely you can't rent bonded space for a brewery unless your landlord allows you to set up your brewing kit there?

Stock holding is relatively easy compared to stock creation, I'd say.

What I'd suggest is a small rented warehouse space (they're real cheap if you look hard enough atm)for the brewery, and deliver the actual finished product to the bonded warehouse?

"ronanf":21asgsz7 wrote: What I'd suggest is a small rented warehouse space (they're real cheap if you look hard enough atm)for the brewery, and deliver the actual finished product to the bonded warehouse?[/quote:21asgsz7]I don't believe Revenue would allow that. Remember: the brewery requires a licence, and the licence is conditional on Revenue being happy that it is secure and (I'm fairly sure) bonded. No bond = no licence = no brewery = no beer.

THis might be of interest to some of you.

The VLB in Berlin, do a 5 month, full time, intensive Certified Braumeister[/url:mn9wia7q] course (a snip at €12,900, and then you have to prove a minimum of three months of practical experience in a brewery to receive the VLB Brewmaster Certificate). They also do an eLearning module[/url:mn9wia7q], Brewing in a Nutshell, and perhaps others, which looks basic, and does not make you a Braumeister.

But, what I thought was good was their week long Craft Brewing in Practice[/url:mn9wia7q] course (slightly more reasonable at €1,250). I was considering signing up for this, but it runs from Oct. 14 till the 21st, and I can't do those dates. Unfortunately, they only run it once a year.

They also do regular post-grad Brewmaster courses lasting 2.5 years, but meh...

I was also fascinated to find out that since 2004 you are not legally required to hold a Braumeister qualification to run a brewery or brewpub in Germany. Hmmmm... <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> One can dream...

&amp;quot;Adeptus&amp;quot;:nfvi366c wrote: I was also fascinated to find out that since 2004 you are not legally required to hold a Braumeister qualification to run a brewery or brewpub in Germany. Hmmmm... <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> One can dream...[/quote:nfvi366c]

Some C4 tv exec would probably jump at the idea of filming that, an impassioned artisan (eccentric would help) brewer trying to get the germans to drink non-german style beers (especially english ales etc). It ticks all the boxes, impassioned expert (ala willies wonky choc factory), eccentric person bringing a product to a country that already deems itself to be the best in the world at making said product (ala that prog about the geezer opening a english restaraunt in Pisa). Cooking/foodie angle, tick.
I'd watch it <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

Haahaa! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

I've already been experimenting on the Germans. They were as surprised as I was!

I'll have to work on my eccentricities though... <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->