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yeah, but it would take most of the fun out of it. then you might as well just be a beer dealer. And it most likely wouldn't be brewed here, and if I had a beer I would want to do Irish styles I think. Sounds like aran mór to me (which I'm sure is fine, but not for me)

"RichieH":2ebu93ag wrote: yeah, but it would take most of the fun out of it.[/quote:2ebu93ag]

If fun includes lots of clean, trying to make a constant produce and convinces people to carrier you produce, there is a lot more to it than the brewing alone

"RichieH":2ebu93ag wrote: And it most likely wouldn't be brewed here, and if I had a beer I would want to do Irish styles I think.[/quote:2ebu93ag]

That where the market research would come in handy from the contract brewing. A lot of brewer produce beer that are not mad about just because its whats sells

"RichieH":2ebu93ag wrote: Sounds like aran mór to me (which I'm sure is fine, but not for me)[/quote:2ebu93ag]

not quite unless you are try to suggest that its produced in Ireland in a specific part when it not <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

Best of luck on what ever you decide

I think the unfortunate truth is that market conditions here (both natural and regulatory) make almost any sort of small scale operation unfeasible from a business point of view, at least in the short term. The Aran Mór example, while not exactly the stuff homebrewers' dreams are made of, seems to me to be the only business model you'd be likely to get financing for.

That is of course unless there's an ICB fund for these sort of ventures <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

&amp;quot;oblivious&amp;quot;:160dy2of wrote: Best of luck on what ever you decide[/quote:160dy2of]

Well I think I'll stick to the old PhD until I become a little better at brewing, maybe even a lot better. What's the rush anyway? If we hang around til the oil runs out, global trade will become unfeasible, but people will still need beer, so it will be back to medieval style village breweries. Bring on the apocalypse! Local beer for local people!

Sorry to go resurrecting an older thread, but you guys seem to be missing a trick with the bond problem. I'm a wine importer, and I rent space in a contract bonded warehouse.

They look after the paperwork with revenue, and I'm charged an "in" and "out" fee everytime I send/receive stock. Aside from that I'm charged a weekly amount on the rented space. Much simpler than setting up my own bond. You need to have a guarantee from your bank with revenue for your monthly excise limit, but that wouldn't be very difficult to get as a microbrewery-sized stock holding - and therefore duty deference - would be small.

&amp;quot;ronanf&amp;quot;:4rbrt7e8 wrote: Sorry to go resurrecting an older thread, but you guys seem to be missing a trick with the bond problem. I'm a wine importer, and I rent space in a contract bonded warehouse. [/quote:4rbrt7e8]

I thought the bond is based upon on the maximum amout of beer produce by the brewery run at full tilt for a year and hence it run into some big money?