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Are people giving Guinness far more credit than they deserve by describing this as a Schwarzbier?

Check out the definition of the style here
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My own experience of Schwarzbiers is limited to Sam Adams and Köstritzer, but they're both quality beers that I would describe as fitting the profile in that link. (I've had a few Czech black lagers but I think technically they're dunkels)

I haven't had tried Guinness Black Lager yet but from what I've heard it's quite bland. Is merely being black and a lager sufficient to qualify it for this rather specific and traditional style? Sounds more like typical macro fare with a little Guinness marketing turn to me.

&amp;quot;onlyrocknroll&amp;quot;:36tic8hu wrote: Are people giving Guinness far more credit than they deserve by describing this as a Schwarzbier?

Check out the definition of the style here
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My own experience of Schwarzbiers is limited to Sam Adams and Köstritzer, but they're both quality beers that I would describe as fitting the profile in that link. (I've had a few Czech black lagers but I think technically they're dunkels)

I haven't had tried Guinness Black Lager yet but from what I've heard it's quite bland. Is merely being black and a lager sufficient to qualify it for this rather specific and traditional style? Sounds more like typical macro fare with a little Guinness marketing turn to me.[/quote:36tic8hu]

A schwarzbier should use a lager yeast, and be pretty black in colour. Dunkels are just dark lagers and only have to be brown rather than black (or at least darker than an amber lager) - from what I understand

still waiting to see these two new Guinness offerings on Canadian soil!

&amp;quot;Beer Wrangler&amp;quot;:1umciffl wrote: Dunkels are just dark lagers and only have to be brown rather than black (or at least darker than an amber lager) - from what I understand[/quote:1umciffl]

A good Munich dunkel should be nice and malty

&amp;quot;Beer Wrangler&amp;quot;:2f1pb710 wrote:
still waiting to see these two new Guinness offerings on Canadian soil![/quote:2f1pb710]

I think it's just the one new beer (unless I haven't been paying attention, which is more than possible)

&amp;quot;Beer Wrangler&amp;quot;:x2j012zo wrote: A schwarzbier should use a lager yeast, and be pretty black in colour. Dunkels are just dark lagers and only have to be brown rather than black (or at least darker than an amber lager) - from what I understand
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Not necessarily. I've had many a beer here in Germany that's called a Schwarzbier, only to discover it's actually quite brown. Köstritzer is still by benchmark, but I've given up complaining that my Schwarzbier isn't schwarz <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

Beer Wrangler wrote:

[quote:105t30p5]A schwarzbier should use a lager yeast, and be pretty black in colour. Dunkels are just dark lagers and only have to be brown rather than black (or at least darker than an amber lager) - from what I understand [/quote:105t30p5]

Budvar Dark Lager is fairly black and is considered a Dunkel. Perhaps the distinction is more geographical?