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In the heart of medieval Cork, we have a 400-year-old brewing tradition.
Beamish and Crawford brewery and the Beamish building is the signature of the South Main St.

Recently, the business was bought by Heineken and the brewing process is being moved to the Murphys site in Blackpool on the North side of the city; the Beamish site is now for sale, and there is very little restriction on what can be planned for the site. Do we want to see another apartment-building?

I'm asking you to sign the accompanying petition and forward it to your friends.

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The minimum we hope to achieve is::

•Retntion of the Tudor-style counting house, not just its facade
•Continuation of a brewing pressence on the site, probably as a micro- or artisan brewery
•development of a tourist-trail and historical 'product' with the Beamish site at its centre.

This is a special location; we won't get another chance to save it.

More background:
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&amp;quot;Taf&amp;quot;:38nzy5fq wrote: •Continuation of a brewing pressence on the site, probably as a micro- or artisan brewery
•development of a tourist-trail and historical 'product' with the Beamish site at its centre. [/quote:38nzy5fq]In practice, how would you ensure this? Wouldn't it be inappropriate for the council to specify what kinds of business can be conducted here? Or is it to be achieved some other way?

The idea is to put pressure on the owner , Heiniken Ireland , to open a guiness Hopstore type attraction there .

The Council is in Support of it some members of government are in support of it , and a lot of the public is in support of it .

Once there can be a secured commitment from the owner to allow this to go ahead and to actively support it , the exact details of what proposed business would go on could be hammered out ,
It coud be a hospitality bar / brewing museum . but it would be important to maintain brewing on the site . In fairness beer has been brewed continuosly on the site since about the 1400's making it one of the Oldest brewing sites in the british Isles still in operation . Camra have actually pledged support to this campaign I believe

Just out of curiosity, can you point me to records of brewing on that site since the 1400's? We found that The Cork Porter Brewery was known to be run by Edward Allen in 1715, and I just saw now that the Wiki piece says there was brewing at that location at least from 1650 and [i:3n50dwzq]possibly [/i:3n50dwzq]as far back as 1500. I'd be interested in anything concrete that goes back to at least 1650. Colin Rynne mentions nothing in "The Industrial Archaeology of Cork City".

The earliest documented brewery I know of, so far, dates to at least 1583. Joseph Watkins and Co., of Ardee Street, Dublin, which was formerly the Abbey of St. Thomas. In 1583 there is a record of an award in a suit in which the Mayor and Aldermen of the city sued the Abbot of St. Thomas for the duty on beer brewed by him. They were most likely brewing for a while before that date. They had the place since 1215! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> Of course the place was closed by the Guinness machine.

By the way, this all relates to this piece[/url:3n50dwzq] I wrote with the help of research by TBN and n1mbus. The Wiki I promised has been delayed <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

Another by the way, where did you hear the CAMRA stuff? I'm curious, as it falls outside their territory, and they won't even support small craft brewers in the UK who use [b:12a7mjhr]kegs[/b:12a7mjhr], never mind a dying Irish giant.

I would have thought some of those building must be listed/protected, but I can't find anything in the Architectural Survey. But then, I have been drinking...

Item in this week's Cork Independent that Heineken are to meet with National Conservation & Heritage Group on 15th Arpil re proposed sale of the site as the latter have threatened to make a complaint to the EU re the sale. Not sure what will come of it but I think Heineken do not want to get any bad press locally re the sale so the more pressure the better. It would be a ahame as Taf says if we end up with yet another apartment block here.