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"drinkstore Stoneybatter":1dtu5ntr wrote: It is the abuse (i.e over consumption) of the alcohol which is the issue, not the strenght of the beverage.[/quote:1dtu5ntr]
But that's kinda linked.

If a young person is over consuming alcohol, it'd be safer if it was beer instead of spirits that they were guzzling down.

"Atticus":ahod9l8f wrote: But that's kinda linked.

If a young person is over consuming alcohol, it'd be safer if it was beer instead of spirits that they were guzzling down.[/quote:ahod9l8f]

Yeah, it might be "safer", but the issue is that why in our culture is it seen as OK, if not cool to over consume alcohol.
Drunk and disorderly on 15 cans of lager or drunk and disorderly on 1/2 bottle of vodka ,is still drunk and disorderly.

As I said before I think from a Social education perspective yes I can see a point in showing and educating the masses that stronger beverages are more intoxicating and therefore need greater respect , but to legislate for it by staggering ages for different strengths of alcohol is in-practical and I think unworkable.

I would however ban all alcopops as I think the whole ethos of that product range is to attract younger folk into alcohol consumption with the view of getting hammered.
It has been our policy not to sell alcopops for the last 4 years.

"drinkstore Stoneybatter":3b8rfvl2 wrote: Yeah, it might be "safer", but the issue is that why in our culture is it seen as OK, if not cool to over consume alcohol.[/quote:3b8rfvl2]

I watched a program a while back on Poitin makers, it was on TG4, I'd love to find out the name and find it again. It went through the whole process old school style and talked about the equipment, where it was done (commons, so you could leg it) etc etc.
They discussed where the expression drinking for Ireland came from.
Apparently when the brits put a tax on whiskey it was considered as patriotic to drink illicit poitin as you were sticking it to the brit oppressor, so to speak by evading their taxes and supporting our homegrown brews.
Hence the phrase, "drinking for Ireland". I think this is a part of the reason we tolerate a lot of things, like crooked politicos and heavy drinkers.....

"drinkstore Stoneybatter":1oz3xdqa wrote: Drunk and disorderly on 15 cans of lager or drunk and disorderly on 1/2 bottle of vodka ,is still drunk and disorderly.
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True, but it will take a lot longer to drink 15 cans of lager, (and is physically a lot more difficult to manage), than to drink 1/2 bottle vodka mixed with coke; chances are the average youngster will chuck up long before they manage to get 7.5 litres of beer into themselves, whereas a litre or so of vodka & coke is not that hard to get down.
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I would however ban all alcopops as I think the whole ethos of that product range is to attract younger folk into alcohol consumption with the view of getting hammered.
It has been our policy not to sell alcopops for the last 4 years.[/quote:1oz3xdqa]
Totally agree, and great to hear that.

"drinkstore Stoneybatter":24aj02ct wrote: I would however ban all alcopops as I think the whole ethos of that product range is to attract younger folk into alcohol consumption with the view of getting hammered.
It has been our policy not to sell alcopops for the last 4 years.[/quote:24aj02ct]


Thats a really good place to start, i'm f**king sick of picking up 1 ltr smirnoff ice/breezer bottles form the side of the pub. And it's worse to see under 18's with them.