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This came out of the David Nutt (no relation) controversy in the UK, but I thought it was generally apt for this thread:

[img:1rzo6xlb]http://i.imgur.com/CG7pp.jpg[/img:1rzo6xlb]

That is an amusing and I would imagine, quite accurate illustration of how government panels on all sorts of issues are formed.

a few ideas i had on this would be 1

adjust the ages you can buy certain strengh beers
in the pub
16 in company of parent but a limited quantity
18 any beer
21 any and all including alcopops

offies should be allowed to sell
drink to

16 none

18 + alone but no spirits or alcopops

21 whatever they want

however this should come with strong enforcement

and losing your trade for
7 days on first offense
30 days on the second
and losing it altogether on the 3

anybody found buying drink for underage
should be a standard €1000 fine and published in the local paper

anybody want to take a chance now ?

the fine should be index linked so it keeps going up with inflation


k1john


should be a st

There's very little will to enforce the laws we have. Making new ones is unlikely to help.

"k1john":34mye7qh wrote: a few ideas i had on this would be 1
adjust the ages you can buy certain strengh beers
in the pub
16 in company of parent but a limited quantity
18 any beer
21 any and all including alcopops
[/quote:34mye7qh]

Having different ages for different strenghts is absolutely ridiculous, and completely uninforceable .Your either legally able to consume alcohol or not. Imagine the scenario , a couple of lads out for the night 1 17 yr old, 1 19 yr old and 1 21 yr old ,all allowed to buy alcohol ,but all at different strenghts .C'mon that's impossible to police. Both in On-Trade and Off-Trade. And reminds me very much of this[/url:34mye7qh]

"k1john":34mye7qh wrote: however this should come with strong enforcement
and losing your trade for
7 days on first offense
30 days on the second
and losing it altogether on the 3
[/quote:34mye7qh]
This is already the case see HERE 'Temporary Closure Orders'[/url:34mye7qh]
What we need in my opinion is a cultural shift in the way we use/abuse alcohol in Ireland and this will never be achieved by legislation.

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Staged age limits work in other countries. In Germany it's 16 for beer, 18 for distilled drinks, and you can have a beer at 14 if you are with your parents.