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I didn't really like Palette wrecker or Hoptoligist, both wet most certainly DIPAs

"TheBeerNut":2hkuplmc wrote: A question for the people who think both a) O'Hara's Double IPA isn't a double IPA and b) that it's not a very good beer: Is there any true-to-style double IPA that you don't like?[/quote:2hkuplmc]
Dont think anyone has said it isnt a good beer, just that it doesnt taste like other beers labelled DIPA.

Lads, you are all forgetting that we live in Ireland. Our beers are all weaker than their American counterparts. O'Hara's stout is 4.3% whereas Sierra Nevada's is 5.8%, Cigar City's 5.5%, Three Floyds 6.5%. Is anyone moaning that O'Hara's is infact only a porter and that Leann Follain is infact only a stout and not an extra stout?

And like I said, they don't make Double India Pale Ale. They make Double Irish Pale Ale which is a maltier, hoppier beer compared to their Irish Pale Ale.

Irish Plain ale style guidelines.....

Over abundance of crystal malt
Divide hop charge by 2

"simonok":2mlp5ndl wrote: I'd consider DIPAs to be a style of beer that I'd be fairly partial to... and I certainly wouldn't lump it in with Torpedo and Hardcore.
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I wouldn't lump Hardcore and Torpedo together to begin with.

If we're arguing style, Hardcore is a DIPA by most every definition.

Torpedo, at 7.2% and 65 IBUs, is at the high end of American IPAs, but below strength for a BJCP Double IPA.
The brewery doesn't call it a DIPA, nor do RateBeer and BeerAdvocate, and if [i:2mlp5ndl]that's[/i:2mlp5ndl] not collected wisdom....

O'Hara's DIPA v Torpedo as not-quite-DIPAs is actually a pretty fair comparison, imho.

"simonok":2mlp5ndl wrote: I didn't really like Palette wrecker or Hoptoligist, both wet most certainly DIPAs[/quote:2mlp5ndl]

Agree on both counts.

Palate Wrecker I found oddly light and citrussy given the IBUs, especially from a brewery that defines the San Diego "chalk-and-nettle-is-a-good-thing" school of bitter pale ales.

I haven't tried Hoptologist, but other things I've tried from them have been only fair to middling.

American brewers are (finally) realizing that stronger and hoppier doesn't necessarily mean better.

Personally I think this is a really nice beer - one of the nicest I've tasted this year. I don't really give a monkeys what they call it (now that I know what it tastes like).
I can understand how someone expecting a bigger beer would feel dissappointed though. Still, we're arguing that yet another new Irish beer may or may not fulfil the style guidelines, as opposed to praising the beer gods for yet more choice in domestically produced craft beer. So, whatever they want to call it, I'm delighted they made it <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

Oh - and Im sorry - I dont know where its on tap <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt="" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( -->