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"Adeptus":2yunewgy wrote: WHo does the money go to on extinguising the license?[/quote:2yunewgy]

The guy who's licence was extinguished gets the cash. Exactly like the taxi plates used to be.

"sbillings":10jaa5py wrote:
Effectivly, the cartel is getting smaller and what competition there is is decreasing.[/quote:10jaa5py]

Plus all the licences are migrating to Dublin, leaving a lot of small villages with no pub/off-licence.


I think they can issue a new licence, but you have to jump through hoops to get one, and it's easier for a developer to buy a country pub for a few hundred thousand, then bugger off back to the city, licence in hand.

"Adeptus":o28cx6c6 wrote: So is it basically greed on the part of the existing license holders that's pushing the price up? WHo does the money go to on extinguising the license?[/quote:o28cx6c6]

It's not the case that the money goes to anyone when extinguishing a licence, the process is just swapping one for the other in the courts, it's a mere technicality.

The cost comes from buying an "old" licence, from a current licence holder, to extinguish in the first place. It's basic economic forces at work; there are a limited number of licences and and the demand for them is high, hence the price shoots up.

There's also something about using two licences to get one new one.I don't fully understand it, but I guess if you have two 'restricted' licences, you can apply for a seven day licence. I have heard of this in reference to supermarkets getting their off-licence.
This doesn't make it any clearer to me:

[quote:2h2v5xqy]The new licence must be of the same character and subject to the same conditions as the two existing licences and the latter shall be extinguished. It should be noted that the licences to be extinguished may be attached to premises in any place, urban or rural, in the State.[/quote:2h2v5xqy]

"noby":1a546jcj wrote: Plus all the licences are migrating to Dublin, leaving a lot of small villages with no pub/off-licence.[/quote:1a546jcj]

And yet we get a load of hand wringing about the decline of the rural community.

Not to mention that when a rural pub closes that a social outlet closes too, and sometimes the only way to get to the next nearest one is in the car. And then we wonder why there's still so much drink driving. <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

&amp;quot;noby&amp;quot;:2dt8mek3 wrote: I think they can issue a new licence, but you have to jump through hoops to get one, and it's easier for a developer to buy a country pub for a few hundred thousand, then bugger off back to the city, licence in hand.[/quote:2dt8mek3]

I think they changed that, so that you have to extinguish a licence from the area you are setting up in. The reason that licences were migrating to Dublin is that Dublin has the lowest per capita licences of any city in the state.

New licences are only issued to:

Theatres and other places of Public Entertainment.
Railway Refreshment Rooms.
Railway Restaurant Cars.
Passenger Vessel.
Premises where it is actually the Revival of a lapsed licence.
Or in the event of an Increase in population in city or town.