I think we really should get onto Sam and find out the limits he is willing to brew. It's easy for us to come up with a recipe for a 9% DIPA hopped, late hopped , whirlpool hopped and dry hopped with loads of hipster hops but that is really going to eat into our donation money and Kinsales funds.I think we have to not let this get away from us when we're designing a recipe.