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"kenmc":3o43qsmr wrote:

"newkie":3o43qsmr wrote: On the contrary, competition is the one thing Ireland needs more of. We have rip-off prices, horrible customer service, and no variety of choice. Every time a UK conglomerate opens I rejoice that another bit of old ireland is on the chopping block.

This rant, of course, doesn't apply to a struggling new business or any biz in the homebrew market. But in general, competition is a good thing and we need more of it.[/quote:3o43qsmr]
Oh no, I agree that *competition* is a good thing. Scullduggery, however, of the type undertaken by some of the major supermarket chains, is not.
I would rather see competition for the best service and range of products than purely on prices.[/quote:3o43qsmr]

Would you consider price fixing and anti-competitive practises as Skullduggery? Because this is happening in the spraymalt market, someone asked recently why spraymalt is so dear, it's not, it's cheap for bakers suppliers, it's just the homebrew market that is being ridden for all it's worth, and this is with the help of the homebrew suppliers.

On service, choice and technical savvy the Homebrew Company score very well. They were a breath of fresh air when they opened as prioir to their arrival many of us were relying on Hop & Grape for supplies and while they are a good supplier it would often take a week plus £19 shipping to get the supplies we needed.

I don't believe Walmart (or MoreBeer for that matter) are about to enter the Irish homebrew market any time soon so as I see it the best way of having access to a wide range of quality products at a good price with next day delivery is to make sure that it's in the local suppliers interest to provide and expand this service. This is already happening and will continue to happen if it is a viable business for the supplier.

"EoinMag":2mwgdo5c wrote: Would you consider price fixing and anti-competitive practises as Skullduggery? Because this is happening in the spraymalt market, someone asked recently why spraymalt is so dear, it's not, it's cheap for bakers suppliers, it's just the homebrew market that is being ridden for all it's worth, and this is with the help of the homebrew suppliers.[/quote:2mwgdo5c]
Yes of course.
As far as I am aware though there's a difference between malts for brewing and malts for baking, the latter can get away with lower quality than the former; this may or not have something to do with the price differential, but I would be positive that the sheer volumes produced for the baking industry far outweigh those of the homebrew industry (I can't imagine any commercial brewery using spraymalt, so the market for brewing spraymalt has to be tiny in comparison to baking/general food production)

"kenmc":rclcnn5a wrote:

"EoinMag":rclcnn5a wrote: Would you consider price fixing and anti-competitive practises as Skullduggery? Because this is happening in the spraymalt market, someone asked recently why spraymalt is so dear, it's not, it's cheap for bakers suppliers, it's just the homebrew market that is being ridden for all it's worth, and this is with the help of the homebrew suppliers.[/quote:rclcnn5a]
Yes of course.
As far as I am aware though there's a difference between malts for brewing and malts for baking, the latter can get away with lower quality than the former; this may or not have something to do with the price differential, but I would be positive that the sheer volumes produced for the baking industry far outweigh those of the homebrew industry (I can't imagine any commercial brewery using spraymalt, so the market for brewing spraymalt has to be tiny in comparison to baking/general food production)[/quote:rclcnn5a]

On the quality point, it's not valid according to the maltsters at Muntons, when I phoned them the statement was that it's the very same stuff, make of it what you will.

you might want to look into getting a different hop supplier at those prices. hbc and eirehops[/url:1s8dp2bk] are about 20-90% cheaper for those hops.

what crystal malt is that you have in stock? i mean how light/dark is it?

"newkie":294gdqzc wrote:

"HomeBrewWest":294gdqzc wrote: [b:294gdqzc]Yeast - Fermentis[/b:294gdqzc]
Safale S-04 Yeast
Safale US-05 Yeast
Safbrew S-33 Yeast
Safbrew T-58 Yeast
Safbrew WB-06 Yeast
Saflager S-23 Yeast
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You need every one of these. Best yeasts ever. particular need s33, t58, wb06.[/quote:294gdqzc]
Thanks newkie,
We just managed to get the following added to our order:
Safbrew S-33 Yeast
Safbrew T-58 Yeast
Safbrew WB-06 Yeast
Saflager S-23 Yeast
I'll put them up on the site with prices etc. later.

Brian
085 1580626
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