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17 years 9 months ago #79

Is there much detail on the one in Fremoy? The brewery I'm chasing in Balrothery/Skerries is linked to the Thomas Armstrong I mentioned earlier.

17 years 9 months ago #80

I should have added that he is originaly from Fermoy. <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: -->

17 years 9 months ago #81

I don't have a whole lot of information about the operation in Fermoy yet, which is a shame as I lived there for a while, but I did come accross a reference that says the brewery was owned by a Henry Walker around 1811, and later I think a Thomas Walker. No mention of Armstrong, but mabe he was just born there? Or mabe he worked in the brewery without owning it?

Colin Rynne has a bit about the Fermoy Brewery, but I only have this extract as I don't have the book "Industrial Ireland 1750-1930: An Archaeology"

[quote:392yazn1]In 1811, Henry Walker, a wealthy brewery owner at Fermoy, County Cork, commissioned
the noted Scottish engineer,John Rennie [/quote:392yazn1]

Also found this nice snippet which just mentions that Fermoy had a brewery

&amp;quot;Miscellaneous Writings of the Late Dr. Maginn - 1855&amp;quot;:392yazn1 wrote: We beg leave to hint to our Irish correspondent, that if the pots were empty,
they could scarcely be termed pots of porter. — BLACKWOOD. And I beg leave to hint that, in the watch-house in Dublin, in 1812, such a liquid as porter was not at all likely to be in request. The drink of that region would inevitably be whiskey punch. In 1812, very little malt liquor was used in Ireland. Most of what was made was exported to the British army then under Wellington in the peninsula, to the British West India islands, and to the East Indies. The soldiers drank it, of course, as if it were so much "mother's milk" — only a great deal stronger. In the West Indies, where the drought was great, the draughts were copious. In the East Indies, whenever what was called Cork porter and Fermoy ale happened to arrive, in anything like good condition, it brought a great price, and was imbibed freely. But, in those days, brewers had not arrived at the present certainty of making ale as drinkable
on the banks of the Ganges as in London, Dublin, Cork, and Edinburgh.

In 1812, London porter was scarcely exported to the East or West Indies : Edinburgh ale was not known much beyond the city of its birth ; and the supplies were sent from the porter brewery of Beamish and Crawford, of Cork, and the ale brewery of Thomas Walker & Co., of Fermoy. The last-named concern has wholly ceased, but Cork city rejoices in Beamish and Crawford's
porter brewery...[/quote:392yazn1]

I don't know if John mentioed earlier, but he found a reference that Mr. Brennan of the Phoenix Brewery, Dublin, owned a malthouse in Skerries, some time after 1828. The only other mention I can find on the web is on this Skerries Historical Society page[/url:392yazn1].

[quote:392yazn1]There was a Thomas Armstrong - circa 1784 - he was a brewer and a church warden for 61 years. There was a brewery where the present day housing estate - "The Maltings" - is located. At one stage the family name was Judge.[/quote:392yazn1]

17 years 9 months ago #82

Fascinating stuff!

Regarding Mountmellick, Co. Laois I have come across something that says there were 5 breweries there in 1801;

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="www.mountmellick.net/history/mountmellick_the_manchester.htm">www.mountmellick.net/history/mou ... hester.htm

Check out the advertisement for Pim's ales and porters.

I'll do some more digging for that area.

17 years 9 months ago #83

According to Mills of Co. Laois: An Industrial Heritage (Fred Hammond) for Laois Co Co 2005, "fifteen brewing-related sites are recorded in Co Laois, of which 14 are actual breweries"

Mountmellick 6 (3 not captioned on the 1839 OS map, suggesting small concerns, or ceased to exist)
Mountrath 2
Abbeyleix
Rathdowney
Durrow
Ballinakill
Derry House near Clonaslee

That only makes 13, so I'm confused. See for yourself:

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="www.laois.ie/YourCouncil/Publications/He...Download,1780,en.pdf">www.laois.ie/YourCouncil/Publica ... 780,en.pdf

The other "brewing related site" was a malt house in the farmyard of Abbeyleix Demesne.

17 years 9 months ago #84

Cool, I'll see if I can locate the others mentioned on the maps too. We only have seven plotted so far for Laois.
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