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"TheBeerNut":1sr180qs wrote: I've added a poll to the thread. Is Irish craft ale served too cold?[/quote:1sr180qs]

For stouts, yes.
For everything else, no.

"TheBeerNut":1oa45tbc wrote: Personally, I don't want my pint coming out any warmer, so that's what's up with it here.

I've added a poll to the thread. Is Irish craft ale served too cold?[/quote:1oa45tbc]

That's a good idea!

"UpsidedownA":wfsjwx8t wrote: Fellas,

I'd have spat my pint out if I'd been drinking when reading this thread. Someone posts a complaint about serving temperatures of beer in Ireland and instead of recognising the justice of it and getting behind it and CAMPAIGNING for change, as you would EXPECT a good CONSUMERS' ORGANISATION to do, you're all lining up to blame the victim and tell the complainer to lighten up and not worry about it!

What is up with that!?

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I think you are reading more in to comments than intended. We can't campaign for warmer pints for a few reasons. Primarily, the irish consumer doesn't want it.
Secondly, we can't tell publicans who have just taken a risk on craft beer that they now need to spend money on new cooling systems. They will take out the craft before they do that.
We can and do talk to the established pubs. They are more open but again it's down to money.

"Saruman":1sj7hejv wrote:

"UpsidedownA":1sj7hejv wrote: Fellas,

I'd have spat my pint out if I'd been drinking when reading this thread. Someone posts a complaint about serving temperatures of beer in Ireland and instead of recognising the justice of it and getting behind it and CAMPAIGNING for change, as you would EXPECT a good CONSUMERS' ORGANISATION to do, you're all lining up to blame the victim and tell the complainer to lighten up and not worry about it!

What is up with that!?

[/quote:1sj7hejv]

I think you are reading more in to comments than intended. We can't campaign for warmer pints for a few reasons. Primarily, the irish consumer doesn't want it.
Secondly, we can't tell publicans who have just taken a risk on craft beer that they now need to spend money on new cooling systems. They will take out the craft before they do that.
We can and do talk to the established pubs. They are more open but again it's down to money.[/quote:1sj7hejv]

We can tell publicans to keep the craft beer lines on the outside of the python. The python should be arranged so that the glycol/coolant solution is right in the middle, next to that should be your coldest pints like coors etc. then your next coldest, like Guinness and (perhaps) your US-style IPAs if people say these are definitely better cold, and finally your craft beer pints. It doesn't require special cooling. It's using what you've got with a bit of sensitivity to the needs of the customer and the beer being served.

And it's an education thing. You say the Irish consumer doesn't like it, but that might be because no one is giving them the choice. Think about it...