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i still dont see a problem with serving beer cold as it has been said beer will warm up?
Ive only thought it was a problem when cask seems to be served to warm as ive no means to cool it

"Parlo":2wjjzyho wrote: People who try real ale,as known in the uk, for the first time, [/quote:2wjjzyho]

Yeah, that's probably not anyone on this forum.


[quote:2wjjzyho]6-8oC pilsner, weissbiers
10oC Summer ales, Saisons
12oC British/Scottish ales, Stouts/porters, barley wines and Tappist
14oC Imperial Russian Stouts[/quote:2wjjzyho]

IPAs?
You'll find the most common craft style in Ireland (not to mention the US, Denmark, New Zealand, and, increasingly, the UK) is pale ale.

The level of customer service shown by the barman who allowed you to return a keg beer for being too cold is off the scale!

You need a seriously intricate keg dispense system to serve a range of beers at different temperatures; I was reading about Mikkeller's new bar in San Francisco, which has some cutting edge way of serving each of their 50-odd keg beers at the perfect temp. for the style. Cost a shedload apparently.

I think anyone in Britain, Ireland, USA, or elsewhere would be shocked to receive a pint of craft keg at a temperature of 10C or higher.

"Parlo":3uabp74y wrote: If you're ever over in the uk again, Pick up a copy CAMRA's good beer guide, find the nearest brewery, arrange a tour.
Or If ou're in Glasgow any September, find out if the Bon Accord, State, or 3 judges bars are taking part in the Open Doors tour

They'll know more than me[/quote:3uabp74y]

I'm not sure you understood me. I'm not seeking any knowledge on the subject. I have no need for it.
I actually have the CARMA good beer guide but I rarely use it. I have done many brewery tours in the UK.

Thanks for the list of bars to check out in Glasgow. I was only there on a day trip while staying in Ayr last year and I made the brewdog bar and some other place called the bierhalle which was OK but not the best.

Anyway, my point was that many publicans in the UK don't serve kegged beer at the optimum temperature and as for cask, that's down to the weather due to passive cooling systems for the most part.
Ireland is a completely different market to the UK, despite our similar weather and backgrounds.

Cask ale died out here long before most of us were born. Ireland has become accustomed to colder kegged beer. As a result, our kegs are served a little too cold sometimes.
It's fine for pale ales and the like but not for stouts.

So, if I decide I want a stout, I usually order one and then drink a pale ale or something else while waiting for the stout to warm up.

Some day, more publicans will be able to have different beers are the ideal temp but that's an investment that's in the future considering our independent or craft beer revolution is really only in the last 5 years. Cask has only just made a comeback in the last 4 years or so.

Give it time and stop sending back pints because they are a little too cold.

Fellas,

I'd have spat my pint out if I'd been drinking when reading this thread. Someone posts a complaint about serving temperatures of beer in Ireland and instead of recognising the justice of it and getting behind it and CAMPAIGNING for change, as you would EXPECT a good CONSUMERS' ORGANISATION to do, you're all lining up to blame the victim and tell the complainer to lighten up and not worry about it!

What is up with that!?

The beer is too cold. Overly cold beer is a problem because you cannot taste it. Yes, it will warm up eventually but FOR NORTH OF FIVE EUROS A PINT, it should be drinkable from the moment you get it!

Why are ye doing the publicans' jobs for them? They should be having to defend themselves. We are a consumer organisation. We shouldn't be defending poor pub practice. We need to get the word out and tell them to do it properly.

(The original poster's mistake was to mention CAMRA and compare Ireland negatively to the UK. It's a red rag to a bull to some people. I'm a Kiwi so I'm a neutral party in all of that stuff)

Personally, I don't want my pint coming out any warmer, so that's what's up with it here.

I've added a poll to the thread. Is Irish craft ale served too cold?