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Irish Licensing and Excise law 18 years 6 months ago #1

I decided the start this thread because another thread[/url:3kygzpaa] mutated into a discussion on the laws which govern alcohol manufacture and sale, in Ireland.

It was pointed out that the artificially restricted number of Pub licences has caused a situation where rural pubs have been bought up and closed, in order for a supermarket, for example to have an off-licence, in a city.

Thanks to Barry's helpful post of the actual regulations[/url:3kygzpaa] in question and Poc's link to the CSNA fact sheet[/url:3kygzpaa] on the subject, we can actually have an informed discussion on the topic.

18 years 6 months ago #2

Poc's link to that fact sheet seems to sum up the basics nicely, without getting bogged down in the nitty-gritty of the regulations.

18 years 6 months ago #3

Ah, but the regulations have some interesting little titbits in then too.

For example, the Club licence, which could be used, by an organised rural community, to get their local back.

Here is a hypothetical situation.

Ballynopub has not had a local watering hole since the landlord of O'Culchies retired and sold the licence to Megamarket (Ireland) Ltd, so they could have an off-licence, in their 35th Dublin Store.

Deprived of what was a major meeting point and social outlet for the community, the local people decide to organise. They form a committee and register themselves, with the clerk of the District court as the Ballynopub Social Club. They can now fund raise and levy membership fees, allowing them to rent the former O'Culchies, premises, where they may sell intoxicating liquor, without the need for a licence, provided that none of the members of the club have any personal financial interest in the sale of said drinks. Otherwise, they can use the profits in any way the committee sees fit. Only members, or guests signed in by members, may be served alcohol, but that would hardly be a problem, as the point was to provide a social outlet for locals, not passing trade or tourists.

18 years 6 months ago #4

Irish Craft brewers social club

18 years 6 months ago #5

"sbillings":3iws9cqr wrote: they may sell intoxicating liquor, without the need for a licence, provided that none of the members of the club have any personal financial interest in the sale of said drinks.[/quote:3iws9cqr]And as long as no-one's drawing a salary from the place they can smoke their heads off too.

18 years 6 months ago #6

"rebel":3ex4l1kq wrote: Irish Craft brewers social club[/quote:3ex4l1kq]
Wahay.

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