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&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:usq42bqk wrote: ]That means we'll probably get Guinness Red, now on trial in England <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> .[/quote:usq42bqk]


Here is a link to Stonch web site Guinness Red[/url:usq42bqk]

[quote:t48r43g9]The only legislative change that might help this, IMO, is a ban on alcohol advertising. I'd be in favour, but I don't know if other members of this proto-group would be.[/quote:t48r43g9]

I agree completely. Advertsing is the only edge that macro producers have over micro producers. A ban would level the playing field and I would wager that after a while the big brands would fade from the memory of the public in the same way that 'outrages' in the media fade the moment they media switches to soemthing else. Let's see if people are still outraged by the recent TD's wage increases next week.

The Green Party suggested banning alcohol advetising during the summer, but they have now been subsumed into the public house owning Fianna Fail party, so I don't think we'll be seeing any action on that front.

Seems like nothing can turn faster than a green

Oh, have we turned into Politics.ie[/url:2cxw0vk5]? I'll need to change my username so...

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:3l77tpf5 wrote: Oh, have we turned into Politics.ie[/url:3l77tpf5]? I'll need to change my username so...[/quote:3l77tpf5]

ok, we are getting a little of topic

Humm. Politics? Big brewers changing their attitudes? The European parliament?

I would see Irelands beer consumers’ case more like the USA than anything European. (I am not saying we should look West rather than East)

On the other side of the pond over the last 25 years things have gone from a sea of yellow fizz to some good choice depending on the area you are in. As far as I understand (someone will soon correct me if I am wrong) this has been done by well run micro-breweries with good marketing. What support they got I have no idea but very little I would suspect in the land of free enterprise.

I see new Irish micro brews as the key to improvement here. It is them that need support from EBCU, ICB, and anyone that can give it.

Drinking something different needs to be seen as “cool” <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) --> EBCU, ICB, or even GOD are never going to convert a 45 year old life-long Guinness drinker!

Perhaps we should ask what can EBCU do for Irelands micros? Bottle plant for Hooker brewery? Island brewery for Arran Mor? (no no no I shouldent have said that I don’t want to start the whole AM thing again <!-- s:x --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mad.gif" alt="" title="Mad" /><!-- s:x --> )