Give me the american IPAs every time, i have always been underwhelmed by british IPAs, they just seem to tame, i want an explosion of hop taste and zing, not just another bland beer (i can get those anywhere).
"Biertourist":b5q0w8k1 wrote: If you're opening the field to American Double IPAs [/quote:b5q0w8k1]
Speaking of which, where does Porterhouse's Hop Head fit in? [/quote:b5q0w8k1]
I'm actually afraid to answer that question; I know the whole point of your question seems to be targed towards the style guidelines, but any discussion about the style guidelines seems to trigger a response that the classification of beers itself is evil.
Porterhouse calls it "Hop Head Pale Ale" on their site, but then they also call it a "Dry Hopped Golden Ale" so if you subscribe to the theory that "it is what they call it", then I guess that that's what it is.
If you're looking at style guidelines you'll have a bit of a difficulty with Hop Head. It has Pale Malt Crystal Malt, and then also Wheat and Black Malt....
At 4.7% ABV it falls under the minimum ABV for the BJCP American and English IPA and because of the presence of Wheat and Black Malt I really wouldn't call it an IPA...
Based upon color and ingredients, "Dry Hopped Golden Ale" is a pretty good description.
Adam
"KeeganAles":1gbiue9u wrote: common usage makes the definition of a term, historically accurate or not.[/quote:1gbiue9u]Why doesn't hundreds of thousands of pumpclips, bottle labels and advertisments put out by Greene King count as "common usage"? Is it just because it doesn't suit you?
"KeeganAles":1gbiue9u wrote: So, from now on, when anybody asks, I'll be sure to say that English IPAs cleave into 2 varieties:[/quote:1gbiue9u]So, in this thread so far we've had two sorts of US IPA, two sorts of English IPA, black IPA and double IPA. If I add the Belgian-style IPAs into the mix are we on our way to observing that the term is essentially meaningless?
Or those that taste of something and those that don't, 'Imperial IPAs' and 'Mild IPAs', just to confuse matters more <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->
Lads I think this discussion should be moved to the pub to try all these beers and whoever is able to make a clear and concise argument after, oh lets say 6 of them is the winner <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt="" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->
&quot;Biertourist&quot;:2imx8w6m wrote: I'm actually afraid to answer that question; I know the whole point of your question seems to be targed towards the style guidelines, but any discussion about the style guidelines seems to trigger a response that the classification of beers itself is evil. [/quote:2imx8w6m]
Classification of things is very useful so that similar stuff can be easily identified and thus described. Take hats for example. Imagine the chaos if we weren't allowed classify them.