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Excise duty relief changes in Budget 2015 11 years 6 months ago #25

oblivious Offline Posts: 5156	Also under the act contacted beer must not be more the 50% of total production 3. Qualifying criteria, section e, "the quantity of beer brewed in the brewery under a licence, franchise or contract arrangement for another brewery must have been less than 50%"

Excise duty relief changes in Budget 2015 11 years 6 months ago #26

andrew Offline Posts: 3334	That's what I thought- so it means that more contract brewing can be done by the established breweries and start-ups like Stone Barrel won't have to go to the UK to get their beer brewed.

Excise duty relief changes in Budget 2015 11 years 6 months ago #27

andrew
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&quot;matrim&quot;:y1bds3mh wrote: Are there any Irish breweries that were close to the old limit who would now be looking to expand?[/quote:y1bds3mh]

As John says Carlow are there right now, I was told two years ago that they had a 70,000hl system. Porterhouse have to be close too, they do a lot of export business. Galway Bay are getting there; as are 8 Degrees with the new brew kit coming online.

Excise duty relief changes in Budget 2015 11 years 6 months ago #28

nigel_c Offline Posts: 1390	Trouble wouldn't be far off either. They do their fair share of contract brewing.

Excise duty relief changes in Budget 2015 11 years 6 months ago #29

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&quot;TheBeerNut&quot;:10ran8g0 wrote: I don't see how the contractor has any status in law. The law is only concerned with the production brewery. As oblivious says, a contract brewer is simply buying the beer from the people who made it. Who designed the recipe or shovelled the malt is immaterial for this purpose.
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That depends on the law.

In the States there is the concept of "alternating proprietorship[/url:10ran8g0]" where the guest/tenant brewer takes over the hosting brewery not just physically, but legally as well: has all their own licenses, titles, records, labelling and pays their own taxes.

(This is why I don't like the term "contract brewery" - all it tells me is that someone doesn't own kit; it gives no insight into how much they actually participate in making the beer.)

Is there anything similar in Ireland or the UK?

Excise duty relief changes in Budget 2015 11 years 6 months ago #30

noby Offline Posts: 1810	Besides the big one or two I would be very surprised if anyone else is anywhere near the old limit. This isn't based on any insider info, just rough sums. Don't get me wrong, any positive announcement from the budget is always welcome, but for the majority of us it will have absolutely no effect.

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