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"Cracking value" is what the breweries pay for their malt when buying it by the tonne. (Ask Tim and Grainne. (Big Hair and Grainne))


When I heard how much a small brewery pays for their grain, I was pretty shocked. Guiness I'd imagine practically gets it for free...

There's no question that yeast is the most expensive part of my brew day (although hops and speciality grains aren't cheap either...).



Adam

"Diablo":1bw8wb1h wrote:
I think he said on another thread that he's looking for an Irish distributor. Obivously as a distributor you would pay less again.[/quote:1bw8wb1h]He did mention to me he was looking for an Irish distributor, for sure.

"Biertourist":3i0apexc wrote: "Cracking value" is what the breweries pay for their malt when buying it by the tonne. (Ask Tim and Grainne. (Big Hair and Grainne))


When I heard how much a small brewery pays for their grain, I was pretty shocked. Guiness I'd imagine practically gets it for free...

There's no question that yeast is the most expensive part of my brew day (although hops and speciality grains aren't cheap either...).



Adam[/quote:3i0apexc]

I'd say the hops are the most expensive ingredient for a brewery....probably why the macros try not to use very many of them.

"Donals shop in athlone":15jf8q90 wrote: Not sure how to do quotes on this forum? but that site themaltmiller.co.uk is cracking value and crushed on the day... Could nearly buy it from that sie and sell it in the shop and make money!!!

Sure the Irish market is at the mercy of the exchange rate as well, majority comes in from the UK..

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Exchange rates don't account for all of it Donal, even when we were on parity the disparity in prices was there, so unfortunately that one doesn't really wash.

If you buy UK grain by the tonne or couple of tonnes and then transport it here, it's not adding on the premium that being an island and a captive audience is. In some cases we're simply being milked.

There is then also the element of market protection that Muntons engage in where they say they maintain vertical markets, whereby I found a baker who could sell me 25kg of spraymalt for 66 euros, yet homebrew suppliers here supply it for 125. When a homebrew supplier complained about me getting it, Muntons told the baker they would no longer supply them if they sold to the homebrew market, price fixing swines.

Wow, i haven't been around for a while and when i come back everybody is offering free shipping!! Nice, i shall be filling my boots <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt="" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->
Hopefully EoinMag will start a HBS soon and we'll all be brewing for half nothing <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

&amp;quot;alexander taipan&amp;quot;:1hids2og wrote: Wow, i haven't been around for a while and when i come back everybody is offering free shipping!! Nice, i shall be filling my boots <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt="" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->
Hopefully EoinMag will start a HBS soon and we'll all be brewing for half nothing <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->[/quote:1hids2og]

Well nothing lasts forever, we have seen a lot of orders for a couple of euros and some have ordered several times in one day! We cant sustain free shipping on that basis, nobody can!

I think a small minimum order value for free shipping is fair to both consumers and suppliers alike. We may not make any money on these orders, but at least we wont be losing too much either.