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17 years 9 months ago #37

That's not [i:alyr6wik]the[/i:alyr6wik] Mr. Power. In the archive photos there's an Ian Power, a former landlord of mine. He is the son of who my Father would consider [i:alyr6wik]the[/i:alyr6wik] Mr. Power.

It's a long way from driving delivery trucks that they were raised. [/my Dad]

17 years 9 months ago #38

I've spent pretty much all day mapping brewery sites in Dublin, which involved squinting over maps, but I have about a dozen found, and have even been able to put names on some of them thanks to Google. Breweries like:

The site of D'Arcy's Anchor Brewery, original makers of D'Arcy's Stout which inspired the Dublin Brewing Company;
The Phoenix Brewery, which was formerly owned by Daniel O'Connell junior, son of The LIberator, who made O'Connels Ale (later brewed by Phoenix, then D'Arcy's and then Watkins Jameson and Pim). The brewery itself was finally absorbed into the Guinness brewing complex in 1909;

Manders Brewery;

The Ardee Street Brewery and a few more.

Getting there. So far 127 locations mapped on the island.

But in other research, I found this classic quote about beer in Galway which I have to share! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

Dutton, Hely, 1824 Statistical Survey of the County of Galway: With Observations on the Means of Improvement, Dublin Society, Dublin

[quote:257knwzo]The use of beer has increased considerably, and if beer or ale could be had of pure quality, brewed from malt and hops only, the use would still increase; but the brewers have been so long in the habit of using drugs of various kinds, that all idea of drinking such wholesome pale ale as we were used to in the days of yore has been long abandoned. The brewers, I am aware, allege, and probably many with truth, that although they may use other ingredients than malt and hops, they are quite inoxious. As I am not skilled in brewing I cannot take upon myself to ascertain the fact, nor am I individually concerned, as I rarely drink brewers beer; I see too much vitriol [i:257knwzo][color=red:257knwzo]Adeptus: which I believe is sulphuric acid or some sort of metal sulphate[/color:257knwzo][/i:257knwzo] passing by every day with carriers, confessedly for their use. The fine ale that is to be met with at some few private houses shews what could be done. At all events the very idea of the hurtful ingredients used in breweries, has made multitudes of water drinkers. I am at a loss to know why every private house does not brew as formerly, when even small farmers brewed ; the reasons generally given by many are, that they do not wish to be liable to the visits of guagers at all hours, and that they cannot get good malt to buy.

As to the first objection I have never heard of any improper intrusion, nor need there be any apprehension if an honest return is intended; but I have heard of some mean practices, where an example of a different tendency should have been set to the tenants; at the same time I am convinced that the principal was totally ignorant of what was going forward,and that many domestics would think the beer much the sweeter if they could jink the guager. As to the second objection, it would not cost much to erect a small malt house, which might answer for several adjoining families, and might be conducted by the brewer, who also might brew for those families: the kiln would be highly useful for drying corn, &c. In most cases I imagine indolence to be the chief cause.

There are several breweries in Galway, and a very extensive one at Newcastle near Galway, where an imitation of pale English ale is brewed, that is much liked by many people. There are two at Ballinasloe, one at Tuam, two at Loughrea, one in Gort, by a highly esteemed brewer, and one at Oranmore, which I imagine are all the breweries in this extensive county. [/quote:257knwzo]

Brilliant! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> Beer rant's back in 1824. Some things never change <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

17 years 9 months ago #39

Wow, I didn't know there was a brewery in Tuam.

17 years 9 months ago #40

I love the assertion, in 1824, that if you want decent beer in Ireland you basically have to make it yourself.

[i:3lakk0xo]Plus ça change[/i:3lakk0xo], wha'?

17 years 9 months ago #41

Re. Tuam, I have this entry from Lewis' Topographical Dictionary, 1837:

[quote:2bnb36d7]An extensive brewery, belonging to Mr. Blake, produces from 4000 to 5000 barrels of malt liquor annually; attached to it are a malting concern, making about 600 quarters of malt, and some flour-mills, carried on by the sons of that gentleman...[/quote:2bnb36d7]

I found it on the old maps. It's between Shop Street and Waterslade Place, on the east side of (Shop Street or Fosters Place? Google is unclear, and I didn't note it when I looked at the old maps <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->)

I'll be making a map available of everything as soon as I have finished the first pass.

17 years 9 months ago #42

Adeptus, you're a legend.

The brewery would have almost certainly been situated at a place I know as Garvey's Mills. I must do a bit more digging and see what the story is.

In tangential news, Lewis' topography makes mention of the candle factory owned by my great-great-great-great-grandfather (i think). Cool!
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