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17 years 9 months ago #43

My search is over. From what I'm finding it looks as if who ever wrote the article that frist caught my eye may have confused my place, Balrothery, with the old Barony of Balrothery which at one point encompassed the like of Skerries and Balbriggan.
Skerries would be my canditate for the breweries that I was looking for. <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( -->

17 years 9 months ago #44

Hi Joeby. I'm afraid I haven't yet come accross a reference to a brewery in the Skerries area, but as soon as I'm home I'll do a search and see if there was one mapped. I hadn't had a reason to look in that area in detail. I'll let you know if I find anything when I get back to Germany (Wednesday evening).

17 years 9 months ago #45

Nothing found in Skerries on the maps I have Joeby, but I did a quick search and saw a mention of a Bewery there in 1926, in a page about bus services[/url:1j2owj23]of all things!:D

&amp;quot;that page&amp;quot;:1j2owj23 wrote: November 1926 when the first bus service in Skerries started. This was locally based and run by the Pratt brothers. They operated on behalf of the GNR from The Brewery and the town centre to connect with all trains at the station. [/quote:1j2owj23]

In terms of the mapping project, here are the results of map and document searches so far in terms of breweries per county.

Antrim 4 (is certainly alot more!)
Armagh 1
Clare 2
Cork 23
Derry 5
Donegal 3
Down 3
Dublin 21
Fermanagh 2
Galway 7
Kerry 5
Kildare 3
Kilkenny 4
Laois 7
Limerick 7
Longford 1
Louth 4
Mayo 4
Meath 2
Monaghan 2
Offaly 8
Roscommon 6
Tipperary 11
Tyrone 4
Waterford 2
Westmeath 4
Wexford 9
Wicklow 5

Out of 159, I have 137 mapped (I haven't had access to the NI maps yet, but soon...). Many cannot be found on the map, so I've had to just plot the general location, but have noted where this is the case.

And thanks John (the TBN one) for being my remote probe in Dublin's libraries, and helping to put names on about 20 breweries, as well as the address of a couple that were not on the map in Dublin City around 1838. It makes it so much more real to have names!

Getting there. Hope to be finished in a week or so.

17 years 9 months ago #46

You see the time stamp on this post? That's how late this project is keeping me up.

Yesterday I did a quick run through directories in the (lovely) Pearse Street Library research room to get the names Adeptus mentions.

This evening I went to the National Library to find one book which he reckoned was a major key to this whole thing (Ireland: Industrial & Agricultural by W.P. Coyne. 1902). I've just posted off my raw notes on it to him.

I noticed that a lot of breweries, when they bought up and closed down another, kept the malting facilities of the old brewery. Ireland's second largest brewery in 1902 was the Phoenix (run at one point by Daniel O'Connell Jnr.). It was sited opposite Guinness, on the land running from James's Street down to the Liffey (now part of Guinness, natch). Coyne says the company owns maltings in Monasterevan, Sallins, Ballyroe and Skerries. I assume that all of these were dead breweries, bought and closed by Phoenix. That's all I have for Skerries, though.

Armagh 1? I have 2: both in Lurgan, both run by Mr Johnston.

Are you sure your study is properly 4-dimensional?

Remote probe out.

17 years 9 months ago #47

I found referances to a brewery in Skerries that was owned by a Thomas Armstrong but can't find anything on him. Yet.
Also D'arcy's used to get thier malt from there. The owner of that was John Sweetman snr who's father once owned a brewery on Stephen's Green. I know a few historians who specialise in Stephen's green and searching the history of the place I work on the Green. (It's been there since 1725)

17 years 9 months ago #48

Welcome to the late night brewery research project. My day job is suffering because of it too! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

Just on the Phoenix Brewery, apparently it was subsumed into the Guinness complex in 1909.

Re: Armagh, all I had at the time I posted was Lewis mentioning brewery, but now that you mention it, he could have said "two breweries". Untill I map them, they remain in the database as a single entry. Don't worry! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

I have a brewery mapped that belonged to Sweetman on Francis Street (listed in a few sources). No mention of St. Stephen's Green so far for him. Do you have any date ranges for a possible Stephem's Green Brewery? We could check directories of the period. I would have thought it far to swish a location for a brewery <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->
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