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As far as I recall, Anchor was bankrupt when it closed in 1926, and the site was bought by the Dublin Corporation in 1933. We'd seen elsewhere that breweries, like Manders (off James' Street), went out of business due to price cutting and, I think, certain breweries not complying with pricing agreements maybe accelerating that demise. There's still so much to check out, but at least Dublin seems well documented.

What we've also read and heard is that many of the smaller breweries became bottlers of Guinness Stout, as the canal system opened up transport, and the locally produced beers could no longer compete with Guinness (either because they were able to do it cheaper due to mass production, or the locals wanted a bit of exotic, or is was simply better).

Very interesting BeerNut - so in many cases the demise of the local brewery must be blamed on an inferior product rather than the machinations of Guinness. With pubs bottling themselves on behalf of Guinness some pubs had a better reputation than others. I guess cleanliness standards varied. Local breweries would have had the same problems. Perhaps a lot of the town breweries were simply no great loss.

I got a mail tonight from a local historian in Clonmel who tells me that Bulmers almost certainly do not have any material related to Murphy's despite occupying the same site. If I get a chance to go to the library some weekend I'll try and find more information on it, but my dream of recreating a real Clonmel beer is not going to come to pass! <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt="" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: -->

&amp;quot;halfempty&amp;quot;:34j7o3kc wrote: the demise of the local brewery must be blamed on an inferior product rather than the machinations of Guinness.[/quote:34j7o3kc]Guinness also fixed prices when it suited them, or dropped them to undercut rivals, and muscled other breweries out of the distribution networks, so they weren't above dirty tricks as well. But having a high quality, reliable, available and affordable product doubtless had a lot to do with their eventual dominance as well.

In case anyone is interested, someone has posted the below images on facebook of the Clonmel Brewery of Thomas Murphy.

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The building today:

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Is there a link to this map? Is it still live?

PS: how's that for reviving an old post?



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