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"TheBeerNut":j9pqvxa9 wrote:

"Wallacebiy":j9pqvxa9 wrote: What if you genuinely tried to operate this as a commercial concern[/quote:j9pqvxa9]At a guess, I would say you will not make enough money to cover your operating costs and you will close very quickly. Having lots of drunken liabilities around the place while not taking their money in exchange for high-margin drinks doesn't sound to me like it would stack up.

"Wallacebiy":j9pqvxa9 wrote: Would the revenue try and classify it as a public house[/quote:j9pqvxa9]I wouldn't say so. But your insurance company will.

"Wallacebiy":j9pqvxa9 wrote: Might have some market for it[/quote:j9pqvxa9]I'm out.
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Dissappointed really in you .

My imaginary premises is offerring you all the comforts and entertainment of a public house , with the added benefit of you being able to choose exactly , fully open competition wise , what drink you'd like to bring , at whatever price you can get it for , for a small fee ( probably a cover on the door and say 50c for a clean glass )

If it isn't a licenced premises , it will have different laws regarding closing . It will have no stock overhead . It will have lower electricity and cleaning overhead ( remember there's no barrels and taps ) I think it could be a viable competitor to the Pub experience . and the clientele have to make a conscious decision before they go in as to what they'll be drinking . I'd have bands in there and all , table quizes , film screenings whatever .

"kev2403":3nv00wuo wrote: Jeepers, Ive never heard that, Im assuming its madigans pub which is part of kilbarrick shopping centre[/quote:3nv00wuo]

I dont know where he got his info from, and its going back about 3 or 4 years but im sure thats what he said.

I'll ask him again next time i see him.

"Wallacebiy":1ljvb7b9 wrote: My imaginary premises is offerring you all the comforts and entertainment of a public house , with the added benefit of you being able to choose exactly , fully open competition wise , what drink you'd like to bring , at whatever price you can get it for , for a small fee ( probably a cover on the door and say 50c for a clean glass ) [/quote:1ljvb7b9]But my own house is much more comfortable than the pub, more convenient, serves food all day, and is free.

"Wallacebiy":1ljvb7b9 wrote: If it isn't a licenced premises , it will have different laws regarding closing .[/quote:1ljvb7b9]Yet customers will not be able to procure more drink after 10pm. After 10pm, if they've consumed what they've brought, they'll go to the pub. It won't matter if you're open to 5am if there's nowhere for anyone to get a drink.

"Wallacebiy":1ljvb7b9 wrote: It will have no stock overhead . It will have lower electricity and cleaning overhead ( remember there's no barrels and taps )[/quote:1ljvb7b9]All true; but all pale in comparison to what you'll be paying for public liability insurance. Which will be a lot.

"Wallacebiy":1ljvb7b9 wrote: and the clientele have to make a conscious decision before they go in as to what they'll be drinking .[/quote:1ljvb7b9]And how much and for how long. It's a lot to ask of the punter: things that they don't have to worry about when it comes to pubs.

"Wallacebiy":1ljvb7b9 wrote: I'd have bands in there and all , table quizes , film screenings whatever .[/quote:1ljvb7b9]Which would make it more a theatre than a pub, right? I agree that you have to provide [i:1ljvb7b9]something[/i:1ljvb7b9] else other than glassware, but at that point you start being more a venue than a pub.

where does one put ones beer after arriving?

Do they leave it behind the counter and the staff have to come up with a system so that only the people who brought beer are able to retrieve it. What if someone runs out and just goes up and gets someone elses beer - a bit difficult to manage.

You could provide a means for the customer to look after their own beer in a fridge/safe type thing... but then what if you run out of them - this also sends your costs back up <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

I think it is a good idea to tackle the issue that more and more people are opting to stay at home and drink rather than go to the pub... but there are a lot of pitfalls.

There are plenty of restaurants in Belfast that let you bring your own beer. But their business model is clearly that they are a restaurant - and thats where they make their money.
That said, if someone had told me that there was a place where I could bring my own booze, pay a couple of quid for the privelige, and then drink away for the night, I would have immediately said that it would be abused by students and the like. But no, seems to work fine!

Indian take aways in the UK often allow bring yer own because they are often Islamic and aren't bothered with selling beer.
I believe Australia used to have some sort of BYO clubs, not sure if they were working mans clubs years ago, maybe they still do.