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"Hendrixcat":2sl61z5v wrote: I don't know anything about the working of such things[/quote:2sl61z5v]I've seen a few in my former life in the government paper-moving industry. The report will make mention of the submissions received at the relevant parts. It's done quite fully in the broadcasting one[/url:2sl61z5v], where each section summarises the responses and then deliberates on them, making a recommendation. Most of these tend to include scans of the original submissions at the back as well.

"rossa":2sl61z5v wrote: could it be suggested that possibly lowering tax on the craft brewing sector in the long term would have a positive outcome on the social fabric of the country[/quote:2sl61z5v]I'd say that'd be a tough point to get across at this stage.

"rossa":2sl61z5v wrote: with a cafe/bar idea we could become the france of beer![/quote:2sl61z5v]Isn't there already one of those called "Germany"? And another called "The Czech Republic"? Of course, we drink as much beer as them, so we should be able to do it the same way.

"rossa":2sl61z5v wrote: if the craft industry didnt see the hikes it may help some to survive this potentially difficult time ahead and keep a fragile industry from being drowned out by the big boys[/quote:2sl61z5v]The health and law & order people who constitute this group won't see it that way. Drink is drink is drink, shurren. Veh-hickle.

"noby":2sl61z5v wrote: it should be entered into the news section of this site, to at least mark the submission.[/quote:2sl61z5v]Yep. When it's finalised, we should post it to the news section with a brief introduction saying what it is.

Posting it as a news item is a good idea, who know who the guests that cruse the site from time to time

[quote:1s2qazgz]Isn't there already one of those called "Germany"? And another called "The Czech Republic"? Of course, we drink as much beer as them, so we should be able to do it the same way. [/quote:1s2qazgz]

yeah we know that but do these guys.....if its in a wine size bottle i think they would love it and maybe help us out!
of course most of what i say must be taken with a pill of humour!
i am a civil servant and can truthfully say how we got to this stage of prosperity is a bleeding miracle! if something comes out of this indepth study that is not kneejerk maybe we are heading in the right direction. but we must speak up and be heard and if that involves sending a copy of the letter to the Irish Times and maybe going on radio, well prepared, it should be done. we may be a minority as most people are too lazy to do anything and would comfortably have their rights and freedoms slowly taken from them before even noticing it.

Nice work - a very concise and to-the-point submission.

As I understand how reports work, all submissions are included and cited, not challenged or argued. The compilers of the report than make their judgement and suggest their findings.

Unfortunately, many reports decide their findings first and use the submissions to justify their findings. Or maybe that only happens where I work!!

"rossa":wko973ps wrote: i am a civil servant and can truthfully say how we got to this stage of prosperity is a bleeding miracle! if something comes out of this indepth study that is not kneejerk maybe we are heading in the right direction.[/quote:wko973ps]Well, the Group aren't civil servants, of course, nor are they politicians, so there's some hope there.

"rossa":wko973ps wrote: if that involves sending a copy of the letter to the Irish Times[/quote:wko973ps]Madam does not publish third-party correspondence. We can weigh-in when someone else starts the debate there. C'mon, Dr Joe Barry *buk buk buk*

&amp;quot;rossa&amp;quot;:wko973ps wrote: and maybe going on radio, well prepared, it should be done.[/quote:wko973ps]Now [i:wko973ps]that[/i:wko973ps] would terrify me completely, unless I could run through at least three drafts of the scripted interview. You're going to tell us now that your contract forbids you from lobbying in any shape or form, in any and all media, in perpetuity, right? <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

well i could come up with a nice pseudo name such as hidrink Freely or crafty beerman and go on the radio or write to the times. maybe the later would be less embarrassing! my lady works with the comsumer association of ireland and they are regularly represented on newstalk . the researcher is in touch in the days before an interview and pretty much gives you an idea of what is going to be asked (if not the actual questions)and how you would like the conversation steered. it could be done but maybe we need to look towards other larger bodies to have a similar stand point and strike up a correspondance with them....they would be well prepaired by their pr depts.

on my contract...i cant work in noisy environs for more than an hour and a half a day so i finish at lunch most days and i cant join an outside union - small price to pay!

but a letter to the times might be a good start..any nominations to do it? then we can weigh in with our beautifully scripted, well thought out comments!