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"TheBeerNut":3r4by5c6 wrote:

"KeeganAles":3r4by5c6 wrote: A 7% stout and an 11% stout can't really be said to be the same recipe, can they?[/quote:3r4by5c6]If they're the same recipe, then yes, they can.[/quote:3r4by5c6]

So Anchor Small is the same beer as Old Foghorn because it's second runnings with the same ingredients? But wait, they have different names - so if Porterhouse called their 11% stout by a different name even with the same recipe, it would get a different voting entry, but if they're both called Celebration they're the same?

There's some ropey logic in there.

I understand and agree with your central point: laying a beer on oak doesn't turn it into another beer the same way that different combinations of dry hopping don't change it the same way that Moonbeam with cranberries on cask and Moonbeam on keg are the same beer, for voting purposes.

No argument there.

I just don't think that's what going on here.

4 point difference in ABV, aged in wood, divergent flavours - how different does a beer have to be before it becomes it's own thing?

"KeeganAles":3910lkyu wrote: There's some ropey logic in there.[/quote:3910lkyu]Yes. Ropey logic and inconsistencies. I think both are inevitable in any attempt to systematise beer, including separating one beer from another. Sorry.

Anyway, I've had a rummage in the ballot box and I think it's still safe enough to separate them. Votes already cast for Celebration will be assumed to be for the non-barrel-aged version. We can discuss whether recombination is appropriate if it's material to the final result.

"TheBeerNut":1i0u3miy wrote: Anyway, I've had a rummage in the ballot box and I think it's still safe enough to separate them. [/quote:1i0u3miy]

Thanks, TBN.

*stuffs Arrogant Bastard v Double Bastard argument back into pocket* <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt="" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: -->

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:3v6d50ht wrote:

&amp;quot;Lugh Longhand&amp;quot;:3v6d50ht wrote: I don't think Garnet was available in 2012.[/quote:3v6d50ht]The Bull & Castle was serving it on 19th December.[/quote:3v6d50ht]

Damn! Ye get it all in dat dubbelin!