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VAT on Beer 14 years 4 months ago #19

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&quot;TheBeerNut&quot;:1scxdu3i wrote:
&quot;Partridge9&quot;:1scxdu3i wrote: So how exactly are we getting to €4.70 ?[/quote:1scxdu3i]At a guess I'd say rent, rates, wages, insurance, water, electricity, waste disposal, cleaning, maintenance, music rights, big tellies and glassware.[/quote:1scxdu3i]

not quite... pubs dont make 3€ on the pint.

Back to the maths

1.47 a pint ... (roughly)
Excise is roughly 50c a pint
so we are at 1.97
Call is 2€.

Say the Pub mark up 1.5€

3.50€

Now the publican charges VAT on End cost to the punter - 23%

Vat on that is 80cent

so we are at

4.30€

So my guestimate pubs mark up - roughly 1.50

So roughly for a 4 - 4.50€ pint

1.20 goes Brewer
50c Excise
80c VAT
1.50 Pub

Or to summarise

1.20 Brewer
1.30 Taxman
1.50 pub

remarkably close split .

VAT on Beer 14 years 4 months ago #20

tube Offline Posts: 3438	€160 per keg of 4.3% "premium" lager. Of the €1.83 per pint from the brewery, 38c in excise goes to taxman. Of the €5 charged by the publican, 93c is VAT to the taxman. So: Brewery: €1.45 Taxman: €1.31 Publican: €2.25 For micro beer of the same 4.3% abv: Brewery: €1.66 Taxman: €1.10 Publican: €2.25

VAT on Beer 14 years 3 months ago #21

iBrew Offline Posts: 6	A good bar should run at about 40% cost of sales on average. So if it's costing them 1.50 they should be selling at 3.75. the rest is just cream for the cat. If you think beer is bad, last place I managed those glasses of coke out of the wonderbar system get in McD's too) was costing 0.17 per glass and being sold at.....

VAT on Beer 14 years 3 months ago #22

mr happy Offline Posts: 171	40% cost of sales sounds about right from the bad old days when I did pub accounts. In fairness though you have to cover depreciation, pay wages and admin costs out of that as well.

VAT on Beer 14 years 3 months ago #23

tube Offline Posts: 3438	&quot;iBrew&quot;:5sznpg3v wrote: last place I managed those glasses of coke out of the wonderbar system get in McD's too) was costing 0.17 per glass and being sold at.....[/quote:5sznpg3v] Major bone of contention for me as I have kids, and €2.80 for a small glass of Club Orange is very anti-family. Contrast that to the UK where soft drinks in pubs are frequently 50p a glass.

VAT on Beer 14 years 3 months ago #24

spud 395 Offline Posts: 1290	Lots of places around here will give the kids, glasses of cordial for free

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