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"kenmc":fqsap9tl wrote: There's a difference between "[b:fqsap9tl]made from 100% quality pear juice[/b:fqsap9tl]" and "made 100% from quality pear juice".
For the former to be true, there can be anything at all in there, heroin, strichnine, saccherine, methanol, petrol and [b:fqsap9tl]as long as there is 1 drop of pure pear juice, then the statement is factually true.[/b:fqsap9tl][/quote:fqsap9tl]
Is that right? I would understand that as meaning that pear juice is the main ingredient. eg. I think cheese is made from milk, but I wouldn't say beer is made from hops. (although I suppose I wouldn't say beer is made from water either, and that is the main ingredient...)

This looks kind of relevant:
[url:vqcm49yk]http://consumerist.com/2007/04/lawsuit-what-is-the-meaning-of-made-from-sugar.html[/url:vqcm49yk]
but they settled out of court <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt="" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( -->
[url:vqcm49yk]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18618557/[/url:vqcm49yk]

&amp;quot;steveb&amp;quot;:1knhkciu wrote:

&amp;quot;kenmc&amp;quot;:1knhkciu wrote: There's a difference between "[b:1knhkciu]made from 100% quality pear juice[/b:1knhkciu]" and "made 100% from quality pear juice".
For the former to be true, there can be anything at all in there, heroin, strichnine, saccherine, methanol, petrol and [b:1knhkciu]as long as there is 1 drop of pure pear juice, then the statement is factually true.[/b:1knhkciu][/quote:1knhkciu]
Is that right? I would understand that as meaning that pear juice is the main ingredient. eg. I think cheese is made from milk, but I wouldn't say beer is made from hops. (although I suppose I wouldn't say beer is made from water either, and that is the main ingredient...)[/quote:1knhkciu]
At least semantically, yes it is correct, which is where the confusion lies; you [i:1knhkciu]understand[/i:1knhkciu] it to be telling you that pear is the main ingredient (and nothing else in this case where it is 100%), whereas what it actually says is that "Whatever pear is actually in here is 100% quality pear juice"

Going even further....
From the previously linked website of bulmers pear....

"5. [b:3hbrwlag]What are the ingredients / from what is Bulmers Pear made?[/b:3hbrwlag]
Bulmers Pear is [i:3hbrwlag]made from 100% quality Pear Juice[/i:3hbrwlag]. The Bulmers Pear recipe is a safely guarded secret."

So it's 100% pears then...

then....
"[b:3hbrwlag]6. Does Bulmers Pear have any side effects?[/b:3hbrwlag]
Bulmers Pear [i:3hbrwlag]contains a significant level of high quality, pear juice[/i:3hbrwlag]."
This is ambiguous - significant could mean a large amount of pear juice, or a large proportion of it is pear juice. But I'll let this slide because..

"[b:3hbrwlag]10. Does Bulmers Pear contain any colourings?[/b:3hbrwlag]
Yes, Bulmers Pear contains the colouring agent E150. E150 is a natural caramel colouring, derived from plants."
Oh - so there's some colouring in there too then, so it's not 100% pear juice after all. Sure how could it be, we need yeast there too, even a tiny bit....

But they're still covered with the first statement, cos [i:3hbrwlag]besides all the other stuff[/i:3hbrwlag], the pear juice is 100% high quality.

So the pear juice the use is a 100% quality pear juice, but the don't specify what the over all proportion of the drink is pear juice !

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:8b5xmx5k wrote:

&amp;quot;KeeganAles&amp;quot;:8b5xmx5k wrote: +1, a punchy IPA cuts through the burn.[/quote:8b5xmx5k]I've never found this to be the case. I think there's a psychological connection[/url:8b5xmx5k] between "India" pale ale and Indian food, but they don't really work.

We need another challenge...[/quote:8b5xmx5k]
I make no psychological connection between India Pale Ale and Indian food. I simply make the case that hoppy beers go well with curry, not all hoppy beers are IPAs. SNPA or Brooklyn Lager stand up very well to a spicy dish, and crucially you can taste both the curry and the beer, not something that can be said for blondes and weizens in the same scenario.

&amp;quot;oblivious&amp;quot;:8b5xmx5k wrote: So the pear juice the use is a 100% quality pear juice, but the don't specify what the over all proportion of the drink is pear juice ![/quote:8b5xmx5k]This is a bit like a fast food joint claiming that their chicken nuggets are made from 100% chicken breast. Technically correct but misleading in that what chicken it does contain is 100% breast, even if the chicken only forms 20% of the ingredients.