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Public Health (Alcohol) 2015 10 years 7 months ago #73

As usual, everyone is taking it as axiomatic that supermarkets have been selling alcohol below cost, which I don't actually think has ever been proven to be the case. I'm open to correction here, of course.

But, for the sake of argument, let's assume that there has been some below cost selling going on.

The independent offies are still deluded if they think they can compete with the supermarkets on price, even with a ban on below cost selling.

The supermarkets have vast central purchasing power, so they can buy their beer cheaper than the independents can. They can then sell that beer at cost (if they are willing to sell below cost they would certainly be willing to sell at cost), which is actually lower than the cost price of the independents.

As the independents want to make a profit on the beer they sell they would have to mark up their beer from their already higher cost price.

Independents quite simply cannot sell their beer as cheap as a supermarket which is willing to forgo profit on such a sale.

Public Health (Alcohol) 2015 10 years 7 months ago #74

"oreils87":1hrrlixa wrote: With Tesco's under the spotlight from fraudulent revenue claims, Other supermarkets wont be too quick to start playing around with accounts. So proper scrutiny may already be happening in the background.[/quote:1hrrlixa]

Rebates are a fact of life in retail - Tesco got into trouble because they accounted for the revenue too soon, not because they solicited rebates.





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Public Health (Alcohol) 2015 10 years 7 months ago #75

Well I think that this EU directive/whatever is playing STRAIGHT into the hands of governments.

If you set a minimum alcohol unit price it will stop "below cost selling" and will NOT affect the price of decent drink in the offies. The cost of good beers/wines/spirits should not increase as a result of this BCS legislation.

The alternative ALREADY proposed by this statement is to increase the revenue on all alcohol so that WILL increase ALL our drinks prices - just to stop the Efin Knacker drinkers!

Of course the government will be laughing all the way to the bank

Public Health (Alcohol) 2015 10 years 7 months ago #76

"Will_D":2eu1fqza wrote:
If you set a minimum alcohol unit price it will stop "below cost selling" and will NOT affect the price of decent drink in the offies. The cost of good beers/wines/spirits should not increase as a result of this BCS legislation.

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I'm afraid that nothing could be further from the truth. Minimum pricing will have a knock on effect.
Think about it for a moment. The current average price for a bottle of Jameson or Paddy whiskey is about €24. Minimum pricing would see a €24 minimum price for spirits according to reports. That means that your €17 bottle of Aldi spirits will now be the same price as premium brands. Do you honestly think premium brands will not increase to differentiate themselves from the cheap stuff?

The same goes for every type of drink, beer included. It might even cause an artificial rise in the price of craft beer.

Public Health (Alcohol) 2015 10 years 7 months ago #77

"Saruman":10qy5r5g wrote: I'm afraid that nothing could be further from the truth.

Minimum pricing will have a knock on effect.
Think about it for a moment. The current average price for a bottle of Jameson or Paddy whiskey is about €24. Minimum pricing would see a €24 minimum price for spirits according to reports. That means that your €17 bottle of Aldi spirits will now be the same price as premium brands. Do you honestly think premium brands will not increase to differentiate themselves from the cheap stuff?
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The logic also works the other way:

Why would I buy the cheaper brand for €24 when I can buy the real deal for the same price?

But let those government fekkers do their worst and let the market decide - as it surely will

Public Health (Alcohol) 2015 10 years 7 months ago #78

It won't affect me.
I won't be buying cheap swill, nor will I be selling it.
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