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"baconsarnie":2q2mvwgd wrote: Best to stick to the same old story. No risk that way[/quote:2q2mvwgd]Unless your entire industry is dying of inertia and you want to be one of ones who survive by offering something different.

"baconsarnie":2q2mvwgd wrote: So there needs to be more done to convince publicans to stock craft beer. How, when & by who- I'm not so sure.[/quote:2q2mvwgd]I've heard the LVA is going to have craft beer on draught as the theme of an upcoming seminar for its members. Definitely a step in the right direction.

I've heard the LVA are actually very interested in Irish craft beer, think this proves it.

Still doesn't change the fact that anything but Guinness tastes like "muck" to most "stout" drinkers.

"TheBeerNut":1l7ra87w wrote:

"baconsarnie":1l7ra87w wrote: Best to stick to the same old story. No risk that way[/quote:1l7ra87w][/quote:1l7ra87w]Unless your entire industry is dying of inertia and you want to be one of ones who survive by offering something different.

It's been on its knees for a while. The lack of innovation is startling. I've heard plenty of moaning about the fact that pubs are struggling & not a huge amount if willingness to try new was of working to get people back into pubs (with notable exceptions, mostly thriving)

It really surprises me that landlords (male reference intended) never use their own Jacks!

For gods sake a clean urinal area area and a bogg roll are not too much too expect!

Go into a decent crafte beer/good food/clean Jacks pub and bingo! You go again and again!

Ar**h**e landloards who still insist on running their pubs into the ground deserve to go bust!

They just give us a source of low cost pubs for the craft beer/food revolution!

"baconsarnie":1v4hbb9f wrote: It's been on its knees for a while. The lack of innovation is startling. I've heard plenty of moaning about the fact that pubs are struggling & not a huge amount if willingness to try new was of working to get people back into pubs (with notable exceptions, mostly thriving)[/quote:1v4hbb9f]

Yeah, but it's better to blame off-sales and supermarkets undercutting rather than doing something about the situation yourself.

We're a conservative bunch and most of us if we're honest when we started out drinking as young adults, prided ourselves in identifying a good pint of guinness from a bad one and boasted that we knew where sold the best pint.
A blind loyalty to a brand.
With money tight, when you do go for a pint you spend your money on what you know your getting. Once you buy the pint, if you dont like it, you cant hand it back! People who arent into craft beers dont like the after taste that hops gives you and as we were all 'raised' on dry beers its hard to change that.
To be fair publicans are only willing to buy/invest in beers they know they will sell on the 2 nights of the week that their place will be busy!
Are microbreweries doing anything to offer the punter a free mouthful or the publican a free keg as a trial?

I do my best wherever I go, be it a pub/restaurant and ask them what craft beers they stock....but yeah it's a very slow process.
I suppose the breakthrough will come more fron lager drinkers than stout men, as there's not alot of loyalty there. Most lager drinkers can be persuaded Im sure to drink Pale Ale...........just tell 'em its lager <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt="" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: -->