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Siebel Tasting - Thursday's June 28, July 5 & 12 13 years 10 months ago #49

Sorry, I apologize if the attendee list is closed to the people who previously signed up. -Not sure how this is working. If it's just for those who previously signed up then no big deal; if its open to new sign-ups I'll happily sign up and pay my money. (I just finished reading the whole thread.)

Adam

Siebel Tasting - Thursday's June 28, July 5 & 12 13 years 10 months ago #50

"Biertourist":20b7szg3 wrote: Sorry, I apologize if the attendee list is closed to the people who previously signed up. -Not sure how this is working. If it's just for those who previously signed up then no big deal; if its open to new sign-ups I'll happily sign up and pay my money. (I just finished reading the whole thread.)

Adam[/quote:20b7szg3]

We were at 19 so you're number 20! The list is now kind of closed, but I assume we'll have a couple of drop outs closer to the time so if anyone else wants to get onto the subs bench, let me know of your interest!

"Biertourist":20b7szg3 wrote: Padraic,

I can help and I'm actually thinking about the smelling/tasting order and logistics and getting together descriptions of the chemicals and where they come from / what steps of the brewing process they are introduced in.

Oh yea, I'm officially signing up for the June 28 / July 5th tastings, too.

I've even found some instructions for the best way to identify some of these tastes and smells. Some are oils so you really need to get the oils into the air by putting your hand over the glass and swirling it pretty vigorously; some of the smells are best detected with multiple short inward breaths and others are best detected with a single long inward breath.
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I'd appreciate any help you can give Adam, to be honest I haven't had much of a read through the stories that came with the kit but I don't think they had anything interesting to say on the best procedure for smelling etc. At a glance the seemed to be basically, "if you get this in your eye wash it out with running water" type of instructions... I'll go dig them out and see if they are any use!

Siebel Tasting - Thursday's June 28, July 5 & 12 13 years 10 months ago #51

Ok so I did a bit of reading, each standard has an info sheet that is basically a this contains 1.4% solution in DI-H2O, along with some don't get this in your eyes type info.

The other two sheets included in the kit are:

Sheet 1 has a table with a brief description of the standard. (flavor name, flavor descriptor, common sources and final concentration of compound in spiked beer)

Sheet 2 has the procedure notes and required supplies:

Supplies:
1. boring beer (1 litre per standard)
2. means of refrigeration
3. 1 liter beer pitchers
4. clean sampling glassware
5. A clean odor free designated food area.

Instructions:
1. Keep standard refrigerated.
2. prepare sample immediately prior to use in a clean area.
3. make sure the standard has not been tampered with
4. Pour the entire contents of one of the sensory standards into a 1 liter pitcher of beer (which is at approximately 50-52 F) to prepare your "spiked" beer for sampling. Each vial is added to 1 liter of beer to achieve the desired concentration.
5. In order to adequately dissolve and disperse the flavor ingredient, gently stir the beer (avoid excessive foam formation).
6. Each beer will hold 3 times the normal flavor threshold.
7. Gently pour into glasses, approximately 20 tasters.
8. Give everyone an unspiked beer to try side by side.
9. evaluate each of the treated beers for aroma, taste and aftertaste.
10. teach everyone the names, an standard terminology of describing the tastes.

I've used my own summary of all points except 4&5 which are the ones that deal with prep.

All samples are diluted in DI-H2O, 20% Ethanol or dilute propylene glycol. I'm assuming these are all nice and water soluble given the instruction in points 4-5 above.

Does that sound reasonable or am I missing the point along the way?

Siebel Tasting - Thursday's June 28, July 5 & 12 13 years 10 months ago #52

"Biertourist":kyo3kuwv wrote: I've even found some instructions for the best way to identify some of these tastes and smells. Some are oils so you really need to get the oils into the air by putting your hand over the glass and swirling it pretty vigorously; some of the smells are best detected with multiple short inward breaths and others are best detected with a single long inward breath.
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It's a pity their instructions don't come with that sort of detail.

Siebel Tasting - Thursday's June 28, July 5 & 12 13 years 10 months ago #53

BJCP link: pages 67-71

[url:3s5xxjdy]http://www.bjcp.org/docs/BJCP_Study_Guide.pdf[/url:3s5xxjdy]

or if you don't want to download a whole pdf, it's in the troubleshoot section of this page:
[url:3s5xxjdy]http://www.bjcp.org/study.php[/url:3s5xxjdy]

From my surfing, I've found someone who said they did all 24 in one sitting 2.5hrs so that makes me feel easy on us being able to taste 8 without too much trouble.

This will be my last post for the night, I think 5 in a row to the same topic would be a bit much!

Siebel Tasting - Thursday's June 28, July 5 & 12 13 years 10 months ago #54

Padraic,

Can you confirm the date and time and venue for this? I think I've lost track somewhere along the line.
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