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"HomeBrewWest":161f3ucz wrote: All the advantages of glass bottles, but cheap and with screw caps.


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&amp;quot;alexander taipan&amp;quot;:214g4f42 wrote:

&amp;quot;HomeBrewWest&amp;quot;:214g4f42 wrote: All the advantages of glass bottles, but cheap and with screw caps.


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Wish you could buy beer in cornies!

&amp;quot;alexander taipan&amp;quot;:24d7m1b2 wrote:

&amp;quot;HomeBrewWest&amp;quot;:24d7m1b2 wrote: All the advantages of glass bottles, but cheap and with screw caps.


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Hi Alexander, not often we get a chance to impress you . . . but get this . . . I just spoke to the Ox-Bar bottle manufacturesr and they say that:
- when you bottle, you introduce oxygen to your beer,
Unless you prime your bottles with CO2 (thats our next challenge, and we are getting there for both beer and wine makers), its inevitable that some air will mix with your beer when you bottle. Commercial wine makers prime their bottles with CO2 to protect their wines during bottling.

The Ox-Bar bottles drive oxygen out of the beer AFTER its bottled. The manufacturer says that, unless you are a commercial operation, they are much better than glass bottles!

Now, if that doesn't impress you . . . . I give up!

&amp;quot;HomeBrewWest&amp;quot;:l5489ary wrote: The Ox-Bar bottles drive oxygen out of the beer AFTER its bottled.[/quote:l5489ary]But the yeast will consume the oxygen anyway. What's the point?

&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:3lqe62ts wrote:

&amp;quot;HomeBrewWest&amp;quot;:3lqe62ts wrote: The Ox-Bar bottles drive oxygen out of the beer AFTER its bottled.[/quote:3lqe62ts]But the yeast will consume the oxygen anyway. What's the point?[/quote:3lqe62ts]

also, modern bottle caps absorb oxygen. And, you only need a thin layer of Co2 (created by bottle fermentation) to safeguard the beer against oxygenation, so it doesn't matter if there is some oxygen in the beer, as long as there is a layer of co2 sealing the beer. Bottle conditioned beer already keeps exceptionally well. I think this may be a case of fixing something that ain't broke. I will try some of these for the purposes of posting some beer to far flung friends however.

&amp;quot;RichieH&amp;quot;:18rr6gt9 wrote: And, you only need a thin layer of Co2 (created by bottle fermentation) to safeguard the beer against oxygenation, so it doesn't matter if there is some oxygen in the beer, as long as there is a layer of co2 sealing the beer.[/quote:18rr6gt9]
I don't think this is necessary true. CO2 is heavier than oxygen but brownian motion of the gas will cause oxygen to come into contact with the beer, albeit at a lower rate.