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The "social responsibility” Levy aka Start of Prohibitio 14 years 3 months ago #25

We're in the 'manufacture of consent' phase right now; the government creates voodoo statistics in order to have ordinary Joe Public parrot them. Once this is done, the taxing may commence.

Am I right in thinking Ireland is the only country in the world that's charging its citizens a carbon tax? This was on the back of unproven science and statistics.

The "social responsibility” Levy aka Start of Prohibitio 14 years 3 months ago #26

"Will_D":1ufk2g3m wrote:

&amp;quot;Spud 395&amp;quot;:1ufk2g3m wrote: Or maybe more people will start to brew their own <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: -->

Seriously I think there are some very vivid imaginations at play here lads[/quote:1ufk2g3m]

I think it just goes to show what happens when a bunch of educated people gain access to dirt cheap alcohol aka. "HomeBrew". They use their brains!!!

Will[/quote:1ufk2g3m]I didn't realize that scare mongering was the preserve of the educated.
Al Capone esque drink running gangsters ruling the streets, while a great image is far fetched to say the least

As I see it extra taxation is as simple as another revenue stream for a cash strapped government, simple.
Publish an auld report that damn's the evil drink to justify it.

The "social responsibility” Levy aka Start of Prohibitio 14 years 3 months ago #27

UpsidedownA. I don't think it's children who need to be educated. They should be part of the campaign but they do not exist in isolation, so you can educate them until they are blue in he face, but if the drinking culture of their elders is one of binge drinking they are not going to do what teacher told them and drink sensibly while everyone else gets drunk.

An education campaign designed to change the behaviour of society as a whole should be embarked upon. That is what changed the attitude to drink driving and I think it can work here too.

We need a very simple message and that is that it is not OK to get drunk. Set the medical data aside. Stop telling people about units or how much X number of units per week will increase your chances of medical condition Y. That information should be available, but the thrust of any education campaign should be simple and to the point:

[b:25cehnw2]Alcohol is strong stuff and if you can't handle it, you shouldn't drink it.[/b:25cehnw2]

[b:25cehnw2]If you drink until you are out of control, you have gone too far. You are en embarrassment to yourself and others and you are responsible for whatever consequences you experience.[/b:25cehnw2]

It would be a slow change, but the situation we need to get to is one where anyone, regardless of age, who gets falling down drunk, or shouty, or sick is be made to feel acutely embarrassed and loses face in the eyes of his peers.

The "social responsibility” Levy aka Start of Prohibitio 14 years 3 months ago #28

&amp;quot;Spud 395&amp;quot;:46ql1cx8 wrote: As I see it extra taxation is as simple as another revenue stream for a cash strapped government, simple.
Publish an auld report that damn's the evil drink to justify it.[/quote:46ql1cx8]

And Spud hits the nail on the head.

The "social responsibility” Levy aka Start of Prohibitio 14 years 3 months ago #29

Also, by not directly addressing the problem, it allows the government to do the same thing all over again in 4 or 5 years time.

The "social responsibility” Levy aka Start of Prohibitio 14 years 3 months ago #30

Ok. I have done a blog post on how I think this country should proceed.

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