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Wow, alot of different opinions on this one. You must be even more confused than b4 <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt="" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

In my experience (10 kits,3 Partial and 3 allgrain brews ish)I have only had 1 infection ever. Thats was my fault and not any cleaning products fault.

So what confuses me with some of the posts Iv read here is the idea that cloudy starsan does not work and spray bottles full of starsan do not work. Iv always used starsan and its always cloudy and Its even cloudy in the spray bottle that I store and use whenever I need over the space of months <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> Iv never had any trouble with starsan, Its always worked for me.
Have a look at this starsan experiment this dude did. Its very informative, be sure to look at the other starsan stuff he tests
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My advice is to clean all crud with hot water,remove the tap and clean it well(if you have one) rinse 2 times with boiling water and finsh by putting 1 gallon of cold water with starsan and shake the beejayzus out of it for a few mins.

HELP!!! <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt="" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

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Have a look at the link I posted above.

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Starsan is the business for sterilising and wwp is great for cleaning. Go with them.

This is a bit obvious but when using spoons ect, dont lay em on the counter without sterilising the surface first.

Cheers, I saw a guy online use one of the wallpaper troughs to hold all his syphons, mash spoon etc so i might give that a go.

I'm gonna go with vwp and star san. It's surely fool proof after that... right?! <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt="" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->

If its fool proof your after then take it from the biggest one you'll find, it will work out grand <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt="" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

Seriously tho, just be thorough and you'll be grand.

A lot of the chemical free reinheitsgebot german purists will only use hot water and nothing else.