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Apart from messers and the porterhouse where can I find real ale on tap?

I know a pub called L Mulligans in Stoneybatter gets a few mentions but where else in around Dublin city centre serves up Irish red on tap? Cheers

Hi Brian,

Have a look at this:

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You can do a search by county & see what they stock.

Hope this helps,
Colin.

&amp;quot;Brian 78&amp;quot;:21fljx9y wrote: Apart from messers and the porterhouse where can I find real ale on tap?

I know a pub called L Mulligans in Stoneybatter gets a few mentions but where else in around Dublin city centre serves up Irish red on tap? Cheers[/quote:21fljx9y]The Bull & Castle and Against the Grain are the other two places that have a permanent hand-pump. The beers rotate, though, so you may have to make a few trips to catch a red on. The Bull & Castle has a virtual blackboard here[/url:21fljx9y].

Anyone have the "official" definition of "real ale"?

-I'm specifically interested in whether the CAMRA definition is the same as the Beoir definition, whether this includes the "without extraneous carbon dioxide" clause, and whether we really even know which pubs in Ireland are using cask breathers or blanket pressure via other mechanisms...

I'll add that I'd love to see the Beoir definition include a one-word modification to the CAMRA definition instead of "without extraneous carbon dioxide"$$ "without extraneous carbon dioxide PRESSURE" -who cares where the CO2 comes from; it's the same molecule. If it has the same carbonation AND doesn't go stale as fast that's better for consumers and smaller pubs. (I'd be supportive of a more liberal definition too as long as the quality and flavor of the ale isn't negatively impacted.)

I would love to see such a definition officially released on the public portion of the website and released to the blogosphere for discussion (and Beoir Awareness).


Adam

&amp;quot;Biertourist&amp;quot;:3dlz5o63 wrote: Anyone have the "official" definition of "real ale"? [/quote:3dlz5o63]

&amp;quot;CAMRA&amp;quot;:3dlz5o63 wrote: Real ale is a beer brewed from traditional ingredients (malted barley, hops water and yeast), matured by secondary fermentation in the container from which it is dispensed, and served without the use of extraneous carbon dioxide.[/quote:3dlz5o63][size=75:3dlz5o63]Source[/url:3dlz5o63][/size:3dlz5o63]

&amp;quot;Biertourist&amp;quot;:3dlz5o63 wrote: I'm specifically interested in whether the CAMRA definition is the same as the Beoir definition[/quote:3dlz5o63]Beoir has never officially defined "real ale". Most Irish beer fans I know couldn't give a toss about breathers or the precise mechanics of dispense. The issue of an official definition for "real ale" in Ireland has never come up.

Personally, I really dislike the term because of the implication that beer which doesn't fit the criteria is somehow not actually beer.

While I respect the CAMRA definition of real ale, real beer is not necessarily real ale. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->