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The Beer on the First U.N trip to the Congo 15 years 9 months ago #1

I always wondered about the various old posters in the porterhouse. The ones with old brand names that seem to have been erased by time or more likely Diagio.

Well I was at the 50th anniversary of the U.N mission to Congo last week and then spotted in the Irish Times the following Saturday that the troops brought with them -

422 dozen bottles of Time ale
98 dozen Phoenix ale
72 bottles of Whiskey
72 bottles of Gin

The time name was used again in recent years where a brewery was meant to be based on suffolk st ! It as in fact just an office and the beer was made abroad I think.

There is a nice big poster or flag of Phoenix ale in the porter house. Could it have been the same Phoenix brewery that Daniel O'Connell had a share in but that got swallowed up by Guinness...

So there you go.

15 years 9 months ago #2

in waterford they're mad for their large bottles of phoenix..
One of the guys on here has a phoenix logo as his avatar image - think its "tube"

15 years 9 months ago #3

"JamesM":251w8azw wrote: in waterford they're mad for their large bottles of phoenix..
One of the guys on here has a phoenix logo as his avatar image - think its "tube"[/quote:251w8azw]

yeah I wondered about that waterford phoenix, it was on the go til recently enough. Does it still exist, and who brews/brewed it? The phoenix/Manders brewery on Watling st corner was not absorbed into Guinness as a going concern, it had already stopped trading when Guinness purchased the brewery site, so I doubt Guinness kept any of the names or trademarks.

Anyone know anything about the waterford phoenix and where it comes from/came from? I know the main brewery in Mauritius is called Phoenix.

15 years 9 months ago #4

I remember drinking Phoenix the first time I was in Waterford, wasn't up to much as I recall. Certainly didn't know what the fuss was about.

15 years 9 months ago #5

"snuff":fr79blok wrote: I remember drinking Phoenix the first time I was in Waterford, wasn't up to much as I recall. Certainly didn't know what the fuss was about.[/quote:fr79blok]

according to this michael Jackson article[/url:fr79blok] Phoenix was brewed in Dundalk, probably by McArdle's or maybe Harp.

15 years 9 months ago #6

It seems likely that Guinness would have moved Phoenix to one of their big ale breweries before getting rid of it altogether, most likely when the Macardle-Moore brewery was shut down and production of Macardles moved across the way to Great Northern.

I don't think there's any relationship between Phoenix ale and the Phoenix brewery. I've certainly never seen an ad for a beer called Phoenix made by the Phoenix brewery.
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