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"oblivious":3qhjxz1k wrote: I think they use some English hops in there as well, i think the America hop are late addition. I sure one of the other lads knows more about there hop addition[/quote:3qhjxz1k]
I think I remember hearing that there's sazz, fuggles and cascade.

"TheBeerNut":24a4gcnu wrote: You'll be wanting some crystal malt in that.

This water's rather deep isn't it? Can't seem to touch the bottom...[/quote:24a4gcnu]

I'll throw you a life ring; indeed, there is a helping of crystal malt in Hooker. Irish Pale Ale is an undefined style at the moment. It doesn't really have anything in it to make it distinctive apart form the tasty and perhaps a tad unusual mix of British, European and American hops.

"Wobbler":g3einxbe wrote:

"oblivious":g3einxbe wrote: I think they use some English hops in there as well, i think the America hop are late addition. I sure one of the other lads knows more about there hop addition[/quote:g3einxbe]
I think I remember hearing that there's sazz, fuggles and cascade.[/quote:g3einxbe]

Interesting....saaz in an ale? M'kay...I suppose the fuggles and cascade are the bittering and flavour additions then? So, do you aim for a floral / citrusy aroma for your Irish PA's?
TBN - I used to add crystal all the time - it was a regularly used grain when I used kits and steeped the stuff to give a grainy freshness - and found that a combo of Munich I and a small splash of pale choc malt instead, gives a more complex flavour than crystal.

Have a read of the article about a visit to the Hooker Brewery. The recipe is in there somewhere, or at least enough info to piece a recipe together.

[quote:3hde44t7]...I suppose the fuggles and cascade are the bittering and flavour additions then? So, do you aim for a floral / citrusy aroma for your Irish PA's?[/quote:3hde44t7]

The Cascade are added in the whirlpool so they are the primary aroma hop. Irish Pale Ales are new as said, and Hooker is the only one, but if I were to brew a pale ale and call it 'Irish Pale Ale' I would opt for floral/citrus too because that style is to my taste. I'm not sure what other Irish people who brew pale ales would opt for. It's wide open at the moment as a style.

Is the Irish pale ale (IPA), not a nice marketing trick rather that and style in its self