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"slayerking":108k7b1d wrote: As far as I know theres no issue with ordering beer online as long as its under 110 liters, for personal use and that the duty is paid in the country of sale.[/quote:108k7b1d]

That's not what the rules say:
[quote:108k7b1d]special rules apply in the case of goods subject to excise duty, such as alcoholic beverages and tobacco products. If a private person purchases such products in one Member State and takes them to another Member State, the principle that no excise duty has to be paid in the Member State of destination only applies if the goods are
* for the own use of the traveller or his family and
* transported by himself. [/quote:108k7b1d](Link[/url:108k7b1d])

So technically you are liable for the excise on your orders; you just haven't been caught.

Welcome to ICB, btw, slayerking. Remember to get yourself an orange rectangle for your Boards sig <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt="" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

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&amp;quot;TheBeerNut&amp;quot;:3ryzljt8 wrote:

&amp;quot;slayerking&amp;quot;:3ryzljt8 wrote: As far as I know theres no issue with ordering beer online as long as its under 110 liters, for personal use and that the duty is paid in the country of sale.[/quote:3ryzljt8]

That's not what the rules say:
[quote:3ryzljt8]special rules apply in the case of goods subject to excise duty, such as alcoholic beverages and tobacco products. If a private person purchases such products in one Member State and takes them to another Member State, the principle that no excise duty has to be paid in the Member State of destination only applies if the goods are
* for the own use of the traveller or his family and
* transported by himself. [/quote:3ryzljt8](Link[/url:3ryzljt8])

So technically you are liable for the excise on your orders; you just haven't been caught.

Welcome to ICB, btw, slayerking. Remember to get yourself an orange rectangle for your Boards sig <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt="" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->[/quote:3ryzljt8]

Cheers for welcome beernut, Must get me one of those sigs!! <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

That rule seems to be for a person physically traveling and buying beer and bringing it their self. I think theres a different rule for online buying. I could just never find it!!! <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt="" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->

Maybe I'm wrong but I just find it hard to believe that a big heavy box of beer labeled "Bavarian Beer" would slip in unnoticed!! One of the deliveries was with UPS also and they're usually fairly sticky with things like that! I was half expecting to have to pay something but it arrived no issues!!

Has anyone on here ordered beer online from another EU country and had to pay anything extra?

&amp;quot;slayerking&amp;quot;:3cvl3e9u wrote: That rule seems to be for a person physically traveling and buying beer and bringing it their self. I think theres a different rule for online buying. I could just never find it!!! <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt="" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->[/quote:3cvl3e9u]

There are different rules for ordering beer to be delivered to your door from another member state and buying beer in another member state and transporting it home yourself.

There was a ruling on it over a year ago by the European Commission, or one of the similar pointless bureaucratic behemoths, in which they were tipped to allow distance selling at the selling country's excise rates but the rules were never changed.

If I'm bored in work later I might root out some of the detail, I wouldn't count on it though.

Strangely, considering where I live, I have ordered beer from both BierPaket[/url:1pnhi8b9] and biershop bamberg[/url:1pnhi8b9]. Well, you don't get those really interesting Frankish beers up here. I'll probably order something from the Cracked Kettle in Amsterdan in the next couple of months, but I need to make shelf-space first.

The products are sold from an internet site situated in another EU Member State than the one in which the purchaser is established and sent to the purchaser in a postal consignment:

Excise products sold via the Internet and supplied from one Member State to a customer in another Member State are subject to excise duties in the Member State where the purchaser receives his goods. So, before the excise product can be legally delivered to the purchaser, the excise duties and taxes will have to be paid. Note that in the case of distance selling, the obligation to pay excise duties in the Member State of the purchaser rests upon the vendor. Moreover, in particular in respect of manufactured tobacco products, the distance selling of such goods is also limited by the requirements, in certain Member States, to use fiscal markings or other marks of the Member State where the excise is due to show that excise has been paid, and/or by requirements to provide health warnings in the languages of the Member States where the products are placed on the market.

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