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What's the deal with Mossbrew 17 years 2 months ago #1

What's the deal with Mossbrew? (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="www.mossbrew.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/">www.mossbrew.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/) Startup costs for microbrewery systems I've seen seem to be in the €100,000 to €500,000 range but they seem to offer micro breweries for ridiculously low amounts of money. Has anyone vetted these systems or heard any feedback? Where is the catch?

17 years 2 months ago #2

A €500,000 start-up microbrewery comes with lots of bells and whistles as standard.

17 years 2 months ago #3

These are real ale breweries, designed for a simple infusion mash, and with very little in the way of frills or automation. They probably use second hand dairy equipment for the main vessels.

17 years 2 months ago #4

Sounds perfect, why isn't the country full of them?

17 years 2 months ago #5

So you get an English real ale brewery, then what? You can make large quantities of beer, but you have no way of packaging it.

In the UK, you would normally buy some casks and a cask washer, then just lash the still fermenting beer into the casks and send it out to finish fermenting in the pub cellar, but there is no cask market in Ireland.

So kegs then. It turns out that kegs need to be filled at a higher pressure and they also require your beer to be carbonated before you put it in, so you'll need another tank in the brewery for force carbonation.

It also turns out that beer is sold much colder in Ireland, which causes haze in your unfiltered beer, turning the punter off, so you'll need a filtration system.

In order to filter you need to drop the beer to 0 or -1C for a while, otherwise the filters clog, so you'll need some serious cooling jackets on your fermentors, which means a glycol system.

Do you see where the problems start to come in? They are cheaper because they don't have any bells and whistles, but in Ireland, you actually need a lot of those bells and whistles.

Add to that the fact that the market is much less open to micros and it makes starting such a business here much less attractive than it would be in the UK.

17 years 2 months ago #6

Or you could run your own pub to sell your beer regardless of customer expectation.
Like Biddy Early.
Or Tara's.

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&amp;quot;Cute Brewer&amp;quot;:34r0l0qb wrote: why isn't the country full of them?[/quote:34r0l0qb]Irish beer drinkers, that's why.

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