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as far as the pub scene in derry goes the atmosphere and choice is great the beer however is not very inspiring to say the least i believe there was once a brewery started up locally i think itr was called oak leaf ? but i dont think people were ready for the expierience ?as for weatherspoons ,well there are two in the city the ice wharf and the diamond , they are the only place you can get any variety of beer /ale at all for at least the 70/80 mile trip in to belfast !

"fatcontro11er":3guq8xn9 wrote: thanks to all i`ll get stuck in ,! who knows about making cider? i have about 50 kg of apples which i would like to turn in to cider but, i would sa 30/35 k are a bramley (cooking apple) the rest are a wild type but are perfect for eating as a desert apple would this likely fail due to the cookiung apples out wieghing the the desert apples ?[/quote:3guq8xn9]

I know very little about cider making, but was recently at a cider-making workshop, where the guy said he uses bramleys exclusively.

noby you dont know exactly how he went about it do you ? did he use champagne/ale yeast or was itr wild any sugar etc ?

Welcome to the site. There's a thread here[/url:36gualnu] about cider making. For that amount of apples you'll probably need some kind of fruit press. What you have sounds like a good mix of apples for cider. Ale, wine or champagne yeast are all good for cider making. I kinda prefer ale yeast but that's just because I like some residual sweetness in the cider. Also I'm not crazy about the flavour the champagne yeast gives but then you might love it.

"fatcontro11er":3494svzl wrote: noby you dont know exactly how he went about it do you ? did he use champagne/ale yeast or was itr wild any sugar etc ?[/quote:3494svzl]

He used a generic bread yeast, I guess an ale yeast would be a good choice. He also added sugar, but he normally aims for high percentage (11-13%) ciders. It wasn't, as he stated, for the purists, more a simple introduction into how easy it is to make cider.

As BM said, getting the juice from the apples will be a consideration. There are apple farms around here that are open to juicing peoples apples, for the right price, so have a look locally.

just stay clear of a juicer no matter how big it is!....two words - pulpmaster and press. makes light work of 50kg of apples but it is a messy business. just did it yesterday. killing off the natural yeast with a camden tabs and then gonna add ale yeast to em later this week.gonna add sugar then too to bulk up the alcohol. i recon it will be about 2-3% at the moment max, so a little sugar to take it up a few notches.