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Had a bottle of this ages ago and didn't think a lot of it, but I bought a bottle again recently as I had heard it had changed since it was originally launched.

This time around I thought on first gulp that it was bordering on epic, but by the time I got to the end of the bottle I was feeling the epicness had been over powered by a sweetness that didn't make me feel like having another bottle.

I'm on a bit of a quest to find the most epic stout I can for the common man (i.e. €12 bottles need not apply) and so far it's probably been Fuller's Past Masters Double Stout.

Anyone else feel Leann Follain has overshot the mark a bit?

I believe that "Epic" beers are self destructing in a drinking mans world <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: -->

The amazing property that beer has is that you can keep on drinking it long after you have "quenched the thirst"!

Nobody can drink say 10 pints of water ( this CAN be fatal ) or 5 litres of 7-up - but beer due to the magic hoppy dryness ( tannins ) allow a lot more beer to be consumed than water.

OK, ABV is a problem but for lighter beers ( 3.5 to 4.5 abv ) then with practise ...

The sooper strong flavoured epic beers are not quaffable in this quantity as very soon the palate ( and the liver as most are high in ABV ) says "Enough Already"

However, like all good things, in moderation they are to be enjoyed

Will

I asked Seamus (O'Hara) if the recipe had changed and he told me that no, it was the same recipe and process since the first brew.

And you believed him? <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> There were rumours that the first one was a batch of Celebration (I think) that took a left turn somewhere at the fermentation stage. I found it a bit interesting, but slightly stale[/url:6b0jp5fo].

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just re-read the comments, and it was Thom who mentioned this was originally Celebration gone bad. Or different. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

So how many batches have been made since then? :/

&amp;quot;Barry M&amp;quot;:26bxvauj wrote: And you believed him?[/quote:26bxvauj]

I've always found Seamus to be a straight-up and decent guy. I'm prepared to believe what he tells me until something comes along to tell me otherwise.

I think we are talking about 3 great beers here! I had past masters for the first time today and loved it! Am also a big fan of Celebration and Leann Follain!