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16 years 1 month ago #13

&amp;quot;alexander taipan&amp;quot;:3s7vtu2d wrote: Using that logic you could say that about an all grain brew as well then Eoin <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->[/quote:3s7vtu2d]


Not the same thing at all, but let's not derail someones thread by arguing a point about what is essentially a good idea, but effectively a beer kit that you don't have to add water to or don't need mashing or boiling equipment for.

16 years 1 month ago #14

&amp;quot;EoinMag&amp;quot;:2nxkpzgv wrote:

&amp;quot;alexander taipan&amp;quot;:2nxkpzgv wrote: Using that logic you could say that about an all grain brew as well then Eoin <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->[/quote:2nxkpzgv]


Not the same thing at all, but let's not derail someones thread by arguing a point about what is essentially a good idea, but effectively a beer kit that you [b:2nxkpzgv]don't have to add water to[/b:2nxkpzgv] or don't need mashing or boiling equipment for.[/quote:2nxkpzgv]

A big problem is going to be transport costs its going to be both heavy and bulky, 23L is 23 Kg, thats probably the man reason that beer kits come super concentrated, to save on shipping. It would roughly cost the same as sending a sack of grain (not cheap).

16 years 1 month ago #15

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:qikvxhvq wrote:

&amp;quot;EoinMag&amp;quot;:qikvxhvq wrote:

&amp;quot;alexander taipan&amp;quot;:qikvxhvq wrote: Using that logic you could say that about an all grain brew as well then Eoin <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->[/quote:qikvxhvq]


Not the same thing at all, but let's not derail someones thread by arguing a point about what is essentially a good idea, but effectively a beer kit that you [b:qikvxhvq]don't have to add water to[/b:qikvxhvq] or don't need mashing or boiling equipment for.[/quote:qikvxhvq]

A big problem is going to be transport costs its going to be both heavy and bulky, 23L is 23 Kg, thats probably the man reason that beer kits come super concentrated, to save on shipping. It would roughly cost the same as sending a sack of grain (not cheap).[/quote:qikvxhvq]

Both major suppliers in Ireland are sending up to 30kg with Fast track for 6.50 or 7 euros depending.
Not too bad really.

16 years 1 month ago #16

&amp;quot;EoinMag&amp;quot;:26p35aha wrote:

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:26p35aha wrote:

&amp;quot;EoinMag&amp;quot;:26p35aha wrote:

&amp;quot;alexander taipan&amp;quot;:26p35aha wrote: Using that logic you could say that about an all grain brew as well then Eoin <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->[/quote:26p35aha]


Not the same thing at all, but let's not derail someones thread by arguing a point about what is essentially a good idea, but effectively a beer kit that you [b:26p35aha]don't have to add water to[/b:26p35aha] or don't need mashing or boiling equipment for.[/quote:26p35aha]

A big problem is going to be transport costs its going to be both heavy and bulky, 23L is 23 Kg, thats probably the man reason that beer kits come super concentrated, to save on shipping. It would roughly cost the same as sending a sack of grain (not cheap).[/quote:26p35aha]

Both major suppliers in Ireland are sending up to 30kg with Fast track for 6.50 or 7 euros depending.
Not too bad really.[/quote:26p35aha]

That is good but its still a cost to factor in, also you'd need a box and polypin (its needs to be strong enough not to burst during transit) which for that size tend to be around a tenner to joe public.Im sure it costs the shops less but again it needs to be factored in.

Say 5-6 euros for the container, 6-7 euros for the shipping, and then whatever you want to charge to cover the ingredients, energy costs and man hours and then some profit on top for the middle man (if selling through a shop) or just yourself if you are lucky enough to sell direct.
I could see that working out as one pretty expensive beer kit.

16 years 1 month ago #17

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:30cegtv7 wrote:

&amp;quot;EoinMag&amp;quot;:30cegtv7 wrote:

&amp;quot;delboy&amp;quot;:30cegtv7 wrote:

&amp;quot;EoinMag&amp;quot;:30cegtv7 wrote:

&amp;quot;alexander taipan&amp;quot;:30cegtv7 wrote: Using that logic you could say that about an all grain brew as well then Eoin <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->[/quote:30cegtv7]


Not the same thing at all, but let's not derail someones thread by arguing a point about what is essentially a good idea, but effectively a beer kit that you [b:30cegtv7]don't have to add water to[/b:30cegtv7] or don't need mashing or boiling equipment for.[/quote:30cegtv7]

A big problem is going to be transport costs its going to be both heavy and bulky, 23L is 23 Kg, thats probably the man reason that beer kits come super concentrated, to save on shipping. It would roughly cost the same as sending a sack of grain (not cheap).[/quote:30cegtv7]

Both major suppliers in Ireland are sending up to 30kg with Fast track for 6.50 or 7 euros depending.
Not too bad really.[/quote:30cegtv7]

That is good but its still a cost to factor in, also you'd need a box and polypin (its needs to be strong enough not to burst during transit) which for that size tend to be around a tenner to joe public.Im sure it costs the shops less but again it needs to be factored in.

Say 5-6 euros for the container, 6-7 euros for the shipping, and then whatever you want to charge to cover the ingredients, energy costs and man hours and then some profit on top for the middle man (if selling through a shop) or just yourself if you are lucky enough to sell direct.
I could see that working out as one pretty expensive beer kit.[/quote:30cegtv7]

Pitch it as a premium kit, as with wine kits made with 18 litres of concentrate, i.e. it's the closest equivalent out there, they cost 100 euros or more.
35 euros for the wort, plus costs, you're still looking at less than or around about a euro a pint for 40 pints, if the equipment for the fermenting is the container and it's also the dispenser, you've dispensed with the need for fermenter purchase and also bottles etc. You could still be quids in.

Irish Taxes and Selling Wort 16 years 1 month ago #18

&amp;quot;Biertourist&amp;quot;:38fpv6hp wrote: Or let's say if David Llewland had instead sold 4 liter containers of Apple Juice, an airlock that would go in the bottle, and a sachet of yeast at the Temple Bar (and Dun Laoghaire) Markets, would he currently be in the predicament that he finds himself in?
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A couple of times I've had David's 5 litre bags of apple juice go into wild fermentation- The result was rather excellent...

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