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"TheBeerNut":ay0yp7bd wrote:

"grissol21":ay0yp7bd wrote: the whole organic fad is lost on me as i don't see the benefits.[/quote:ay0yp7bd]After extensive research, I'm finally reaching a conclusion on organic beer: organic beers from breweries that make non-organic stuff (Honey Dew, St Peter's Organic Best Bitter) are crap. But beer from all-organic breweries (Marble, Cantillon, Spectrum) are brilliant.

I reckon making it organic adds nothing, but if you're taking the trouble to be all organic, then you're more likely to do other things that improve the quality of your beer.[/quote:ay0yp7bd]

[color=olive:ay0yp7bd]Cantillon are not 100% organic as yet, even if that's their ultimate goal. Not all they need is organically obtainable, if you catch my drift.

I will, for the sake of argument <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt="" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> , give you one name of a brewery that makes both organic and non-organic beers, that both are great: Dupont (Tourpes, Belgium).

And as it just happens, during the weekend, I tried both the Weisse Hell, as the Bio-Weisse, both from Maisels (Bayreuth, Germany), and to my utter amazement, the Bio beat the ordinary Weisse in about every aspect. I will agree this might well be the exception confirming the rule...[/color:ay0yp7bd]

Most organic brewery's will use non organic hops, as they can be to hard or expensive to continually source

Programme is on tonight at 20.30, I think it's also available on the rte player.If you check out the website it looks like Rupert will be getting a good few sales for the bottles alone!

was a good show, watched it tonight, i liked the optimism from the lads supposed to be helping out.

it sounded as though rupert knew more about the business than the presenters though.

i was wondering what are the legal issues surrounding selling your own beer from a market stall?

thanks, I'm glad it turned out ok... selling beer from the stall will be tricky. My plan is to get the production legalised first. my little brewery is so tiny compared with most that I'm hoping I can sqeeze through all the red tape without too much fuss - still plenty of form filling to do.

Legally, i hope to have a 'brewer of beer for sale' licence. it costs 250 euro a year (good value) and means i can sell cases of beer anywhere. to sell single bottles i need an off-licence licence, which is considerably more costly ( and tricky). the plan of action is to get licenced vaguely first and then go for it....

the presenters were really nice, but not really mentors.... they just wanted to drink the beer - the tv crew drank most of it...............

&amp;quot;rupert&amp;quot;:2t6iqx04 wrote: the presenters were really nice, but not really mentors.... they just wanted to drink the beer - the tv crew drank most of it...............[/quote:2t6iqx04]

Sounds about right, when ppl get to taste a good homebrew they just want more, well thats the effect i had when my family visited my homebar @ christmas, carlsberg on draught and all they wanted was my beer, i was both happy and disappointed, that beer was gorgeous. BTW can i arrange to visit your brewery.