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The real issue is that Septemberfest was originally set up to allow interaction between producers and consumers. The amount of interaction last year relates to the same amount you get in a city centre bar at11pm on a Saturday night.

And before we dare suggest that the producers run this event themselves, Bord Bia would be on good terms with the OPW who have no issue giving "them" the land to use.

And thats not without insurance, organising tons of volunteers, transport etc.

Shame

"TheBeerNut":3totx4b3 wrote: But that's the breweries, not the organisers.[/quote:3totx4b3]


As the breweries were taking the revenue, they should be taking the cost. The organisers need to organise if that means requiring the breweries to have additional staff or charging the breweries for catering staff, so be it.

"TheBeerNut":3totx4b3 wrote: I'd be banning bottle sales altogether, because the system didn't work last year and people just opened bottles outside to drink them.[/quote:3totx4b3]

Because they were left with no other option.

Septemberfest is a great concept but it either needs much greater capacity or it needs to be limited by tickets along the lines of the Taste of Dublin, not that I would hold TOD up as a model of organisation.

Event organisation in Ireland is a pet hate of mine having witnessed how it can be done in the US and Australia.

"silenus":3mig49b7 wrote: And before we dare suggest that the producers run this event themselves, Bord Bia would be on good terms with the OPW who have no issue giving "them" the land to use.

And thats not without insurance, organising tons of volunteers, transport etc. [/quote:3mig49b7]Yeah, it is (was?) a very sweet deal, with Bord Bia getting the space and the insurance, and the breweries doing everything else. But the individual bar model just didn't work second time out.

Either Bord Bia need to do more organising than they're currently prepared for (taking responsibility for the bars) or the brewers need to organise it themselves, which I doubt any of them could justify doing, given the venue and insurance costs.

It brings home how lucky we are to have pre-insured, pre-licensed space like the Franciscan Well and The Oslo, willing to give it over to the breweries for events like this.

"Diablo":24ip2kax wrote: As the breweries were taking the revenue, they should be taking the cost. The organisers need to organise if that means requiring the breweries to have additional staff or charging the breweries for catering staff, so be it. [/quote:24ip2kax]that means they'll have to re-evaluate whether it's worth their time coming. For some of them the answer will be no. The whole idea was to give the brewers an opportunity to showcase their products, for free, with minimal outlay.

"Diablo":24ip2kax wrote: Septemberfest is a great concept but it either needs much greater capacity or it needs to be limited by tickets[/quote:24ip2kax]Neither of those are compatible with the concept behind SeptemberFest -- you're either going to limit the breweries to the already-successful ones, or you're going to limit the attendance to people who were interested anyway.

I heard much the same from one of the brewers at EasterFest, this is not a direct quote but tthe feeling was that Bord Bia don't want to be associated with a 'piss up'.

"TheBeerNut":nl3yveak wrote: that means they'll have to re-evaluate whether it's worth their time coming. For some of them the answer will be no. The whole idea was to give the brewers an opportunity to showcase their products, for free, with minimal outlay.[/quote:nl3yveak]
Well it was part sponsored to make it viable to the breweries.

"Bigears":nl3yveak wrote: I heard much the same from one of the brewers at EasterFest, this is not a direct quote but the feeling was that Bord Bia don't want to be associated with a 'piss up'.[/quote:nl3yveak]
In a round about way, Yes.