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&amp;quot;Quarkstorm&amp;quot;:2hvzpff7 wrote: I drink the bottled Extra Stout occasionally is that acceptable? <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->[/quote:2hvzpff7]But of course. However, that's not "a perfectly poured pint of Guinness Stout" with "its distinctive creamy head" as lauded by this book.

&amp;quot;Graeme23&amp;quot;:2hvzpff7 wrote: if you can get a good pint (my local being a good example) then Guinness can be enjoyable[/quote:2hvzpff7]Absolutely. But where you can't get a good pint, wouldn't it be nice to have the option of O'Hara's or Black Biddy or D'Arcy's instead?

Guinness don't think so.

&amp;quot;Graeme23&amp;quot;:2hvzpff7 wrote: I'm not in to the politics or issues surrounding the brewery[/quote:2hvzpff7]If you'd like to see greater real choice for the Irish beer drinker, I think you have to be.

I really don't feel Guinness could be called responsible for the lack of such choice, I think Irish people are generally very conservative when it comes to things like this, and they choose to drink whats always been around, and why shouldn't Guinness capitalise on this?! We all have to remember that as much of a pain in the neck it is to walk in to a local and see the same bland beers, it isnt going to change unless people want it to change. They arent going to cater for a select group of individuals, and whatever way you look at it, we are a select group of individuals

I don't want to make out like i am defending Guinness, because I would happily take an O'Hara's over a guinness in a heartbeat, Guinness is average at best, but people to change, the advertisers are not going to

I'll open a bottle of the Extra Stout then. Will be trying to brew an oatmeal stout in the next few weeks.