In my opinion, the For foreign axtra is up there with the best stouts i have tasted, everyones very quick to lay in to Guinness, but the fact is, if you can get a good pint (my local being a good example) then Guinness can be enjoyable, I'm not in to the politics or issues surrounding the brewery, there is a hell of alot worse out there, and I think we all know that. If I had not started drinking Guinness, then I wouldnt have broadened my horizons and there's a good chance i would be drinking budweiser right now