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Hop report 14 years 4 months ago #7

One of the Irish shops always charges around that kind of money for hops, which is probably the reason they still have stock of Amarillo. It seems to be sold out in the rest.

I'm finding amarillo blended with cascade is kind of similar to citra with cascade. Would prefer the amarillo blend tho.

Hop report 14 years 4 months ago #8

"Spud 395":2f0oap6m wrote: where there will be problems is in the new craft market varieties such as amerillo, simcoe(up57% acreage) and ahtanum and citra(up 90% acreage)[/quote:2f0oap6m]
This is the reason any brewer should stick with non-proprietary hops, or at least ones that have a secure supply if they must use proprietary.

The open-source hops will always be readily available and cheap.

Hop report 14 years 4 months ago #9

"Tube":1gbefg8i wrote:

"Spud 395":1gbefg8i wrote: where there will be problems is in the new craft market varieties such as amerillo, simcoe(up57% acreage) and ahtanum and citra(up 90% acreage)[/quote:1gbefg8i]
This is the reason any brewer should stick with non-proprietary hops, or at least ones that have a secure supply if they must use proprietary.

The open-source hops will always be readily available and cheap.[/quote:1gbefg8i]

But the like of amerillo, simcoe, citra and Summite are very unique and are very hard to replace

Hop report 14 years 4 months ago #10

"oblivious":y51rkxlq wrote: But the like of amerillo, simcoe, citra and Summite are very unique and are very hard to replace[/quote:y51rkxlq]
Sure, but when you're basing your beer on truffles you need to be mindful that they could get very expensive.

Or you could just brew something else!

Hop report 14 years 4 months ago #11

"Tube":e2tuy4ob wrote:

"oblivious":e2tuy4ob wrote: But the like of amerillo, simcoe, citra and Summite are very unique and are very hard to replace[/quote:e2tuy4ob]
Sure, but when you're basing your beer on truffles you need to be mindful that they could get very expensive.

Or you could just brew something else![/quote:e2tuy4ob]

You cant cultivate truffles <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->


But with any propriety produce they are trying to recoup the initial investment, which remember can be 10 years of works.

I would be surmised if over the next few years the acreage for some of these does not increases and you can used less all of the works great as late or dry hop additions

Hop report 14 years 4 months ago #12

&amp;quot;oblivious&amp;quot;:3qt9utz9 wrote: You cant cultivate truffles <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> [/quote:3qt9utz9]
You can't cultivate amarillo either. Only Virgil Gamache can as he owns them all!

I know what you're saying tho. But I prefer the open source ones, and I think that the new proprietary hops are preventing talented brewers from doing new things with existing hops.

[One thing that always struck me as odd tho: if you want a passion fruit flavour in your beer, could you not just use passion fruit juice alongside an existing hop, instead of citra? And so on for the other onese...]

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